Political Astrologers: Keep in mind going forward in your political forecasting practice that 99% of the polls predicted a Hillary Clinton victory on Election Day. The RealClearPolitics average of polls one day before the election had Clinton ahead by 3.2 percentage points over Trump, the Republican nominee. In fact, the final poll from the Reuters State of the Nation project put the odds at 90 percent that Clinton, the Democratic nominee, would win decisively. Even the infallible Huffington Post’s model predicted a 98.2 percent chance of a Clinton victory!
Both thought that Clinton would win the states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
Even the omniscient FiveThirtyEight pollster, the great Nate Silver, predicted a certain Clinton election and had Clinton with a 71 percent chance of winning on Election eve.
But the great Hillary lost Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, which few if any pollsters had forecast, while also losing the states of North Carolina and Florida. She was blown out in Ohio.
Pollsters also say they erred significantly with their predictions of who would come out to vote on Election Day, because they based turnout models 2012 General Election (using the past to equal the future) based on the exit poll results that found that 38 percent of voters were Democrats, compared to 32 percent who were Republicans.
But as we all know by now, that’s not what happened.
Exit polls showed Democrats with about a 2-point lead in terms of who showed up on Election Day, compared to the 6-point edge they held in 2012. For 13 percent of voters told exit pollsters they decided their vote in the campaign’s final week, with good portion (70-30) breaking for Trump, hurting Clinton.
Keep in mind that nearly 32 percent of people in this nation don’t finalize their Christmas shopping until Christmas Eve. Now why would any political pundit or pollster think they would finalize their voting decisions any differently?
And that major oversight is exactly why the 2016 election results put egg on the U.S. polling industry’s face, not to mention most of the astrologers, as well, who used polling numbers over the course of the campaign for validation of their astrological forecast of a decisive Hillary victory in November.
Below are five stunning facts about the 2016 election that most astrologers missed in their framing of the 2016 General Election and Forecast:
The Clinton Campaign Promoted Trump as a Republican Candidate. Team Clinton promoted Donald Trump as a Republican candidate because they thought he’d be easy to beat.
Sanders Had a Better Chance of Beating Trump … But the Democratic Establishment Sabotaged Him. Sanders (like Trump) created a tremendous amount of excitement, with massive turnout at his rallies. Clinton didn’t.
Trump Took the Overwhelming Majority of U.S. Counties. So, while Clinton won the popular vote – since the Northeast, California and a couple of other large metropolitan districts went for Clinton – most areas of America did not.
The Numbers Show that Trump Did NOT Win Because of Racism and Sexism. While Clinton supporters frequently assume that Trump supporters are all racists and sexists, the numbers show that this is NOT TRUE.
So why did voters elect Trump? Because – just like the Brexit voters – they’ve rejected globalism.
The Mundane Astrological portents from 2017-2020 augur that we are facing an unprecedented breakthrough in the collective: a global change that will definitively overwhelm the unipolar world order created after the fall of the Soviet Union, and sent into overdrive the so-called War on Terror and U.S. military intervention in Iraq, Libya, and Syria, caused by the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The unexpected and unparalleled victory of Donald Trump is the most illustrative representation of a major repudiation by the American populace of the so-called establishment and its transnational globalist agenda.
Continued from Part 1 Transcribed from “Mark The Rabbit Hole” Radio Show with Mark Metheny. Guest: William Stickevers (Airdate: October 6, 2016)
William Stickevers: Although the Blackbox forecast shows Trump having the edge going forward, I do think he needs to be [more] “Trumpzilla” the second time around he debates Hillary. He really needs to be the guy he was when he defeated Cruz badly in the [former] debates.
The Blackbox forecast model is a system that can’t be modified, based on my or anyone else’s opinion. It’s showing that Trump gains traction and as of late he has been pulling ahead. He evened up [the race] by the 10th of September, and he will continue to gain traction. It’s a slow but steady climb, but he peaks the Sunday before Election Day, and then he drops slightly.
However, he’s way up there [and ahead of Hillary] if you compare the graphs to each other. As you can see, the closer we get into late October everything supports Trump. So Trump’s support levels in terms of the personal astrological trends, the mundane astrological trends, the secular political trends, and the changing demographic trends are improving. And the Blackbox forecast also implies pulling in other other mundane indicators that we’re going to see a record-breaking huge turnout this time. And the mainstream media and everyone else is talking about black voter turnout, and the minority voter turnout . But let me tell you something else, white voters haven’t turned out in large numbers for a candidate since Ronald Reagan [back in 1980 and 1984] who won on the two greatest landslides of all time. And that’s when the American economy was down in the dumps, as it is again today. So I’m foreseeing a turnout as big or bigger than Reagan’s 1980 turnout based all the mundane portents, including the Blackbox forecasting models, while most astrologers and everyone else in the mainstream media continue to just underplay it, saying essentially, “Oh well if there’s a big white turnout they’re going to go for Hillary.” Nope. No no no no. They’re going to turn out and for Trump.
There’s another graph on the Bernie voters in which they did a very extensive 6-day polling in many of the key battleground states on Bernie Sanders voters. And I’m going to tell you something, and I posted this earlier today on Facebook — you’ll be shocked — and what it’s showing is that like 15-18% of voters in Nevada, in Colorado, in many of those key battleground states are voting for Trump at this point. Now, Mark, I know you followed Bernie’s campaign closely, and I know a lot of astrologers did, as we once had that discussion on what the Bernie voters are going to do come the General Election. So this is some of the evidence coming in.
For Florida, 18 percent of the Bernie voters — 18 percent are going to go for Trump! And when they did these polls, these were people who were certain of who they are going to vote for, stating that they were 82 percent certain they were not going to change their mind. Fifteen percent of Bernie voters in Nevada are going to vote for Trump. Ten percent of Bernie voters are going to vote for Trump in Rhode Island. And seven percent of Arizona voters are going to vote for Trump. Keep in mind these are people who not only supported Bernie but actually went out and voted for him.
Now, the kickback or the argument would be “Well, that’s less than 20 percent. Right?” But here’s the point: Trump right now is tied or slightly ahead in those states. He is tied in Florida, and Nevada, and slightly ahead in Arizona. And here’s the thing — Hillary is going to need every vote she can get. Every “Bernie” one. In fact, looking at this data Donald Trump is doing better than Jill Stein and Gary Johnson combined.
This supports my astrological theory that the Uranus-Pluto populist trend for emancipating and empowering the electorate [that Bernie also represented as well], and using whatever means necessary to do so is still alive and thriving in this campaign
So the question is, what does this data support? This supports my
astrological theory that the Uranus-Pluto populist trend for emancipating and empowering the electorate [that Bernie also represented as well], and using whatever means necessary to do so is still alive and thriving in this campaign. And even that disenfranchised group who knew that their candidate should’ve gotten the nomination is going to have its day at the polls. So I’m telling you that the political blow-back is coming [in a big way] and many natal astrologers may be really shocked at what we will soon witness [on November 8th].
With my Political Contest Horary Astrological Dream Team group — where we do political mundane forecasting, and actually take all the poll numbers and correlate them with the Vegas odds-makers, to make Political Contest Horary snapshot — working independently, we are coming to very similar results. I have an astrologer [working in our group] in London [Joyce Lambert]; she’s a great horary astrologer. And I have another outstanding astrologer working with me in Denver [Justine M. Rowinski]. We also have some additional astrologers on our team that just check out our work from time-to-time, and the conclusions that we’ve been coming up with are pretty much the same. What we’ve been projecting — it’s almost embarrassing to say — is that we project a Trump landslide. And we’ve been seeing this trend developing since late July, and I have been going on to myself like “Oh, this can’t be true, oh no no no no no no, the election has to be a lot closer than this, this just cannot be true!”
But at this point, I do want to say this: folks, I was on the Kepler College discussion panel as a invited guest astrologer to speak on the on who would be the next president , and although everyone present made a great presentation, the one thing that I stated at the end of the show was that Pennsylvania will be the state to watch in the coming weeks ahead. Because if Hillary Clinton loses the state of Pennsylvania she cannot win. She cannot win the election; it’s just impossible for her to win based [on the electoral college score card of getting 270 votes].
So here’s the current Electoral Collage projection map. Now this map, is not just something I came up with on a whim. This map projection is a result of my Political Forecasting Horary team’s judgment calls and work. If you look at my website you’ll see we’ve been showing different permutations and changes of the map, but it hasn’t changed all that much since June. In fact, we’ve been very conservative. Where we felt that it was to close to call, we always gave it to Hillary. So we’ve been giving Hillary the edge the entire time, even though technically it’s something you shouldn’t do in forecasting. But in the too-close-to-call horary judgments we’ve always handed it to Hillary. And even with doing that, we’re STILL seeing Trump decisively winning from an electoral college standpoint.
And for those of you who doubt everything I’m saying, that just can’t be so, and in a way I don’t blame you. But realize, and Mark can attest for this and it’s on my website, that this method of who would win and lose all 98 primary races is 87 percent. So in regards to the General Election, we’re either 87 percent right on this, or we’re 87 percent wrong. So I really took the Political Contest Horary Dream Team to task, and I said we really need to figure out what’s going on in Pennsylvania. We did four horary snapshots based on different polls and changes in Vegas Oddmakers, and the result of every horary snapshot of the Pennsylvania race augured better and better chances for Trump.
But not only that. Let me explain something here. I really wanted to hold back and I didn’t want to say anything this early. In fact, I had great trepidation last night about stating my forecast today. I was thinking, “Should I really push this Electoral College map out there”, ’cause I know I’m going to get a lot of heat from astrologers the world over saying “Ah, you’re going to be wrong, you’re going to be really wrong on this one.” So I’m really sticking my neck out here. But let me give you some other evidence why I think we might be right.
It’s very important to realize there are certain key counties, there’s certain what they call battleground counties. These counties are bellweather counties in the sense that they have determine how their respective state votes, and what percentage they get reflects the outcome within one percent of accuracy. For example, we have in the state of Pennsylvania two counties in particular that fall within that example. Axiom Strategies actually looks at the battleground counties and does polling snapshots every month just for those particular counties in each Battleground State.
So for the state of Pennsylvania, which is a must-win state for Hillary, we have Luzerne County and Northampton County. And Northampton County is so accurate in determining the president in particular — both Luzerne but Northampton in particular is always within one percent of accuracy historically for the past four elections. It’s actually 0.17 percent accurate on all the elections since 2000. And right now Trump is ahead by eight points. That’s implying that we’re going to see a landslide in November.
By the way, anything five points or over in this state is considered a landslide. So we may see a landslide in Pennsylvania, and I felt much better about saying Hillary is going to lose Pennsylvania after looking at this data. And again, if she loses Pennsylvania it doesn’t matter about the rest of the states when you do the Electoral College math. Pennsylvania is a must-win state; it’s her political firewall. And Trump is there a lot. When she’s taking time off, he goes to Nevada, Pennsylvania, Colorado in a single day. The following day he goes to Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Florida, then back to Pennsylvania. He’s in Pennsylvania all the time. And the campaign there has now hit critical mass. So not only is he ahead eight points in Northampton County, he’s also ahead in Luzerne County which has a phenomenal track record as well, within 0.78 or 0.5 percent of accuracy — meaning almost perfect accuracy in the past four elections since 2000. And Trump is ahead as of today by seven points.
Those two counties is a really telling thing. So right now, the math, the logic, the astrology is all leaning and leading towards a decisive Trump victory come November.
Mark Metheny: Well, those are amazing numbers because, I mean, eight percent is quite a difference there. I’m looking through the map here. So what I’m hearing you say is that it looks like it could actually be a blowout across the board in Trump’s favor, but you’re being cautious in going that far. Because all the tell-tale signs and numbers are starting to point that direction.
William: Correct. In fact, one of the things I’m really trying to do, and I remind my students of this — I try and live by what I say — is not to “nowcast” but to forecast. So I’m not saying, hey, well, based on today’s polls and what I saw today I think it’s going to be a tight race and Hillary will squeak by because blah, blah, blah. No no no no no! I’m using all the different tools, looking at all the forward bellweather states and bellweather counties, and they are indicating a decisive Trump victory. And another thing I want to mention that really sort of puts the nail in the coffin is, do you know the three states that if a candidates is ahead in [the composite polling] there’s over a 90 percent chance they will likely win? Forget the counties. There’s three states, historically speaking, since 1896 that will make you the next president of the United States. Do you know which ones those are?
Mark: Is it Ohio, Pennsylvania, and, is Nevada the third one? Or Florida.
William: Well, that’s pretty close. It’s actually Ohio, Missouri, and Nevada. All three have an outstanding track record. Ohio and Nevada have a 92-93 percent accuracy on picking the winner. So if you were winning in those two states, you have around a 80 percent chance of winning. But if you include Missouri and Ohio and Nevada, you’re now well over a 90 percent chance. So a week ago Trump was ahead in Nevada, decisively. And then CNN claims that he lost some support, but I’m not buying into that. Trump is significantly ahead in Missouri. He’s slightly ahead in Ohio. In fact, Hillary is now denying that she’s shutting down her Ohio operation, and her campaign team stated she realizes she needs to put her energy into protecting her firewall in Pennsylvania. So, Nevada is still very fluid, but the trends are showing well for Trump. But just the fact that we have Missouri and Ohio in Trump’s camp puts you into the 75 percent probability, close to 80 percent probability of winning the election. Which, by the way, is pretty close to what the S&P 500 projection is: 86 percent.
Highest percentage for varying lengths of time for presidential elections, 1896–2012
Ohio – 2 misses (1944, 1960) from 1896 on (93.3%, slightly “too Republican”). Currently the longest perfect streak.
New Mexico – 2 misses (1976, 2000) from 1912 on (92.3%, “neutral”). The state of New Mexico voted for the winner of the popular vote in 2000.
I could list of the statistics, and I’ll post something there for your group, but I don’t want to get too deep into that because that it can get boring, and it’s beyond the scope of astrological forecasting. But for those naysayers who’re saying that it just can’t be so, trust me — the evidence is compelling that those three bellweather states are very telling. Especially in terms of political forecasters who don’t use astrology, they’re looking at those states and the bellweather counties of those states. And again, they’re all indicating Trump.
So, I think the astrologers need to really reframe their position on the election, and stop embarrassing themselves by saying “Hillary wins no matter what….Hillary wins no matter what!” It’s going to look foolish enough for the media, but the astrologers have enough going against them.
Mark: So I just just want to put in perspective, a little bit of what I do and how it explains the stuff you have to deal with.
So, one of my other jobs is that I’ve worked in sports statistics since spring of 1985, so 31 years. So I’ve worked on TV and radio sporting events for 31 years, and I’ve started applying that to astrology, so I have a trunk here full of charts of all the pro and a lot of the college sports teams, and I look at sporting events and everything. So just so that people understand how difficult this is, I would just sit for, not necessarily hours, but I will sit for a long time just looking at the charts for two teams, and you almost have to fight what your preconceived notion is of what you think the outcome will be. So when you’re looking at a horary, or an event, or an election, a sporting event, you almost end up — like what you’re saying, can this be real? Because this is not what the media is telling me and what other people are telling me, this should not be so. So, what you do with this is very difficult because you can get into these battles within your own head, if you get something very different than what my rational left brain is being told should happen.
So I just want people to know the kind of stuff that you have to go through to come up with a prediction or a forecast that is not what the mainstream would expect. So that is a very difficult position for you to be in, so I feel your pain. (laughs) And I just want everyone else to know how difficult it is. And when you look the chart for a sporting event and a chart for the two teams, and I can just sit and split hairs and minutiae for days over stuff. And so, for something to show up this obvious and contrary to what the status quo believes the outcome is going to be, that’s kudos to you and your group on that work.
William: Thank you very much, Mark. I mean, I’ll tell you the truth. Last night I was up late and I just said, I don’t know what I’m going to say on this show, because the last thing I watched on TV was CNN saying, oh, people in Nevada who were going to vote for Trump have actually changed their mind. They interviewed some people who said, “I saw the debate and that was such a disaster that I definitely have to vote for Hillary now.” And first I was thinking, well, first of all, the debate wasn’t a disaster. And it wasn’t that bad to turn off every voter in Nevada to turn the polls the other way around. That’s number one. Number two, I find it interesting that all of a sudden they’re saying, a week ago they were saying the race is tight, and now they’re saying Hillary is favored to win. It’s very clear to me what they are doing. I hear these statements on NPR radio that the second debate may actually put the nail in the coffin for Trump. I hear these things and you have to ignore it, and as an astrologer and forecaster you have to look at the data and be true to it. And, Mark, I know what you went through with Bernie race, where you start having doubt, and you start thinking to yourself, are you the only guy seeing this? So, yeah, you know, I could be wrong, but I’m being true to the data, I’m being true to the astrology, and I’m being true to the secular trends. And from what I’m seeing this is not going to be a squeaker election, where its going to come down to Ohio, down to some obscure county where 4,000 votes determine the outcome like it did with Kerry and Bush in 2004. No, I don’t see that happening here in 2016. That’s not what I’m seeing. I’m seeing more of a 1980 replay, if I’m right. Or maybe not to that extent but something much closer to George Bush vs. Michael Dukakis. And, folks, remember, at this time in October back in 1988, Michael Dukakis was 17 points ahead of George Bush, and George Bush won by a landslide.
Mark: Was that because — that was one of the famous debates where Dukakis kind of got put in his place, wasn’t it.
William: Yes, in fact Dukakis won the first debate. You’ve got to remember, too, Dukakis was ahead by 10-17 points, depending on who was polling, from July all the way until late October.
William: So there was a lapse. And what you’re seeing now is Trump surging slowly. It’s a slow but steady surge. Hillary’s numbers are slowly declining, not collapsing totally but declining, and they’re at this parody point now. Trump has much more upward to go. We haven’t seen his numbers top. And classically, in every race to date, he’s a great finisher. He’s behind or second place, and then BOOM at the very end he pulls ahead and wins. He’s like the “dark horse” Secretariat.
Mark: Right, right.
William: Right? He’s very much like a dark horse. A dark horse always stays in the back, right (laughs) — people are changing their bets by the third turn, and BOOM — he not only wins but he breaks records. And Trump has proven himself to be a great finisher at the very end of election battles. He doesn’t always poll the best and then boom — he comes out ahead, and he comes out breaking records.
And remember, folks — more people voted for Trump than voted for any GOP candidate, broke the records by 60 percent. Fewer people voted for Hillary than voted for Obama in the 2008 primary, when the population was smaller. Less people, significantly less people voted for Hillary. And so we’re being told to believe — and even though people — when it came to the primaries — people voted less for Hillary than Obama, and Trump got far more than Romney did, far more than Reagan, and far more than anyone did, and blew out all the numbers. We are led to believe that Hillary Clinton is still as strong as a candidate or stronger than Barack Obama, and Donald Trump is a weaker candidate than Mitt Romney. That is absolutely absurd. There is no data to support that. And that is what the media, and the astrologers who basically parrot what they say, by and large, want all of us to believe.
Mark: Well, the proof will be in the pudding, they say, but there’s — I think it is obvious to anyone who is honest with themselves will have to say it’s obvious that there is a disconnect between what we are seeing in the polls and what we are seeing around us vs. what the media is telling us is going one. There’s definitely something not jiving there.
William: Right. And to tell you the truth — and I’m look at the polling data as well, you know that. I don’t just look at the astrology. I look at all the trends, I look at all the economics. In order for Hillary to win the way the astrologers are predicting and the political pundits who’ve been wrong all along — remember, all the political pundits were wrong all along on almost every race. They would’ve lost their shirts if they bet money. And yet for Hillary to win the way they’re saying, we would need to see a surge happening about now.
Now that may happen, BUT that’s not what I’m seeing. We would need to start seeing a significant, decisive, dramatic, watershed set of events occur in her favor that galvanize her campaign and have her surge in the polls, especially in the key battleground states. And right now folks, she is losing momentum in the key battleground states. That much is clear. She’s not campaigning at the speed and intensity she needs to. I mean, Trump hits so many places, he fills the place — 30,0000, 50,000, or 100,000 people at a time. The numbers are huge. They’re bigger than Barack Obama’s was in 2008 — something else the media doesn’t want you to know. And that is something else the astrologers don’t want to talk about.
So again, the evidence is overwhelming, and yet, many people want to pretend, you know, keep calm and pretend everything is normal. Pretend and extend that this election is another version of 2008 for the Democrats all over again. That’s what the media pundits and a majority of the astrologers want you to believe about Hillary, all over again.
Mark: Right, whereas the numbers are showing that there’s something very different going on than what the media is trying to assure us is going on, which leads the conspiratorial side of my brain — which is actually both sides — to say, okay, is there something up their sleeve? Are they just trying, do they have something in the works and they just have to keep selling it so people don’t question the results.
William: Well, that’s a great question. I actually think if we see a Hillary landslide and I have to be rebuked by the 50,000 astrologers assaulting my blog every month, worldwide, it would certainly indicate to me that some other X factor is involved in the outcome of the election. Stating that, I do believe the American oligarchy is extremely desperate, because you have to remember one thing — in order for global financial reset to occur — which is basically pulling out and replacing the U.S. petro-dollar and the U.S. Treasury bonds out of virtually every bank throughout the world — in order for them to be swapped by the International Monetary Fund SDR — it’s called Special Drawing Rights, world money . Now, in order for that to occur, a debt jubilee would have to be declared, which needs to actually happen. Because all the debt worldwide is unpayable, it’s stagnating, and destroying the currencies.
Also, they can’t keep zero percent interest rates going. And they, the oligarchy, can’t keep negative interest rates going; they know the financial system is going to come to a collapse. So the only thing they can do is pull the dollar off as a world reserve currency and swap everything out. For all of that to occur, they need to have certain trade agreements in place. All these trade agreements that have been in place, and the new ones that are even more in depth that basically take away all national oversight and power away from countries, allow for a new global financial system to take over, not only at the international level but the national level, at the municipal level and at the local level, worldwide. One currency for all countries. And in order for that to all work and happen you need to have to TPP in place. So I believe Obama is going to push that through. And if he doesn’t achieve it, Hillary Clinton must and will achieve TPP passage. Once we have a reset of — once those trade pacts are pushed through, then they’re going to invoke global financial reset shortly thereafter, within a very short amount of time. So they’re basically going to implode the economies, and in doing so they are going to recapitalize the Central Banks with SDRs, and the dollar and all the other types of currencies will be, over a period of 5-10 year period, be completely discontinued. Then, once they have that in place, they can have global governance. And that’s really what they really have planned, and that is a one world oligarchical infrastructure in place. But first you need to do the economics. Once you have the economics in place, things like nationalism and things like legal boundaries and state boundaries, or national boundaries really don’t mean that much. And then you go from unilateral to a multilateral defense system, which is sort of what NATO is, even though it is still U.S.-dominated.
Also, they want to get rid of U.S. power, they want to marginalize U.S. military power as much as possible. They want it to be on parody with China and Russia, and no longer to be the dominant country in the world. And for all that to happen, thing things I have just described have to take place.
This stuff goes beyond the scope of what we’re talking about today, and I hope we will do a show maybe in the near future, but the key thing to remember is that the oligarchy needs to get Hillary Clinton in office. She must win at all costs. Without her winning, the oligarchy’s plan and policies that have been operative and put into place and rapidly being rolled out since 1992, will be completely disrupted by Trumpzilla, because he’s not going to play ball with them. He’s even threatened to audit the Federal Reserve, stating something like, “and if I see that they are in the red, I am defaulting on the debt, I am going to default on the treasuries, on the bonds.” There’s going to be a jubilee, that’s basically what he is saying. Along with “well, you may get a pension but it’ll be only 50 cents on the dollar. I don’t care because I’m going to do what it takes to fix the economy and you can’t have an economy that is based on a debt-driven market model.” He just may do it. Everyone knows it, and no one wants to talk about it. He knows it’s either going to happen organically when the debt implosion occurs, OR he’s going to push the economic red button and do it the way you would in a controlled demolition, like a Chapter 13 model, for all intents and purposes, on a national level. And if that happens, China, Russia, Europe, and everyone who has our treasuries as a core asset will be screwed. But he is Trumpzilla and he doesn’t care.
So the oligarchy’s plan for a one world, unified — where the SWF, the BIS, Bank of International Settlements, is the underpinning central bank that basically carries out the agenda of the IMF, where you have a one world currency system. That just can’t happen if you have a Trumpzilla occupying the White House.
Mark: Agreed. And that’s… I mean, I guess we can really only guess beyond that what would happen. We’re beyond at odds with Russia over the Syria thing. You know, if he pulls the plug on… (exhale)
Mark: (laughs) I don’t even, I don’t even know what this would all look like, to be honest with you after that. Almost too many moving parts for my brain, I think. (laughs)
William: Well, I want to say one thing. Everyone says this is what Trump is going to do if he becomes President., implying he going to be the worst president in the world. Well, I don’t know if he’s going to be the worst president in the history of the world. But I do know one thing. After looking up Trump’s personal biography and his natal chart (I’m sure you have Mark — I know Theodore White has) that whatever he does, if he gets in office, it will be big. It will be dramatic. It will be rolled out fast, and be implemented unconventionally. The implementation or the legal means by which whatever happens in his term in office will be unprecedented. And he always seems to do things in a dramatic, big, and unconventional style in his biography with his love life, with women – in regards to his wives, with business, with money, and his social life. He takes massive risk by rolling the dice, and he’s all in with all his money. And that’s what he’s going to do and what we are going to see if he gets into office. He’s going to see things as they are now, roll up his sleeves, whatever he doesn’t like he’s going to throw his atomic political breath on it and everybody better get out the way. We have never seen a president speak and say, “This is what’s going on; I’m going to tell you stuff you shouldn’t know but now you’re going to know. And you’re going to understand why I’m going to push that button. And when I do, everyone’s going to feel the pain. But once the pain is over, then things will reset to normal. Then we’ll have real price discovery. Then housing prices will go back to normal. Then people will be able to see their wages go up. We’ll see a country that begins to export, and industries that decide to keep whatever manufacturing here that’s left, stay here and taxes that don’t stay in Ireland.” And those types of things.
So you know, no one wants to push that button. “Hope and Change” is gone and a thing of the past. Now it’s Trumpzilla’s turn, and we’re Tokyo. And he’s going to do what Godzilla does to anything in his way and no one can stop him. And let me tell you something, he’s very convincing, not only to the electorate, he’s very convincing with business people. He’s very convincing with women, he’s very convincing with men. He’s got charisma. I’m not saying Congress isn’t going to balk. I’m not saying they’re not going to give him a fight. But he’s not going to be a guy who just walks away, stays locked up in the White House and lets somebody else handle it. This is going to be a guy the astrologers are going to be pulling their hair out over because they’re going to predict “this is what I think Trump will do” — and NO, he’s not going to do that. Not at all. Whatever the astrologers write about Trump, Mark, whatever they write — I’m just going to watch for a while — they’re going to be flat out wrong! Like they’ve been wrong so far about him so far. If he gets elected, they will be wrong. Because they couldn’t even call his nomination correctly, right out from the gate from the beginning. They’re assuming he’s just going to be another version of whatever we’ve had in the past. And what I’m saying here is all bets are off for everybody, once and if Trumpzilla gets in office.
Mark: I agree. A lot of people when they talk about Trump, they talk about that Mars in Leo and everything, and to me, the first thing I see is that Uranus conjunct his North Node, and Moon, I believe it is. I mean, to me that’s the true nature there of what he is and what we’re going to get, is that Uranian energy. And that’s why they haven’t been able to shut him down, and why Hillary and others don’t know how to handle him. Because it’s Uranus. He is Uranus. Period. I don’t even care about that Mars in Leo. He is Uranus. He is chaos.
William: Yeah, Trumpzilla is chaos with a secret hidden agenda. An enigma wrapped in a riddle. And everything you say about him, once you think you have him figured him out, will just make you a fool of yourself because, he going prove you [the astrologers] wrong again.
Now, I’m not saying this guy is genius. I’m just saying that he is a wild card and he’s got a lot of talent. Maybe it’s misdirected at times, but the guy has got a lot of talent and a lot of charisma. What he just pulled off in getting the nomination is revolutionary in and of itself. The fact that he was behind the huge voter turnout, and even if he doesn’t win, it’s going to be revolutionary in and of itself.
There’s no going back to the Grand Old Party anymore; there is no Republican party now. The Bush dynasty is over. And let me tell you something, I think he’s even destroyed the Democrats, because he’s really exposed them for what they are. In fact, many, many of the Democrats I know are not voting for Hillary, okay, or they’re stepping out this time around. So again, we are in the Twilight Zone. And we have never seen a movie or episode like this.
Mark, you’ve got to realize, I’ve been keeping quiet, and just posting my stuff, and having to go astrology meetings playing it low. You know I’m the treasurer on the Board for San Francisco NCGR and you know how many speakers keep coming there to lecture there telling me Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, as if Trump doesn’t even exist. Here is the most common two sentences from most of the astrologers discussing the election in the chapter: “Can you believe this guy? Let’s not even talk about him and discuss Hillary’s chart.” I keep hearing this again, over and over and over. And from my New York City friends, it’s almost the same! Now, that way I’m speaking here today may be a little bit over the top for some of your listeners, but that is only because this has been pent up energy where I’m seeing something so radically different.
Mark: And nobody even wants to look at the numbers. They just want to talk about what their preconceived notions are, which I’ve got to say I was completely wrong on — if we look back to January or February, I was completely wrong on how this was all going to go. I figured the Republicans would try to throw somebody else in at the convention, especially when they all came out, and when your whole party is against you as it was at one point, and then he still — the thing that’s hilarious to me, all the people that are throwing certain stereotypes at him and at his followers, they so do not see what is driving this phenomena, and they’re feeding into it, they’re building it. And they don’t see that the more that they do that, they’re actually raising the chances that he will win, and they’re actually feeding the fire. So, yeah, I don’t have a horse in the race between those two, but it’s a completely fascinating psychological study for me. Because at least at some point I had to say I am wrong; what I thought was going to happen is not playing out that way.
William: Mark, but you were almost right, and I have to hand it to you — you were one of the people who saw the populist revolution occurring, and you knew it was either going to be Trump or Bernie. So it was going to be Bernie vs. Bush or Cruz, or Trump vs. Hillary. The race we all wanted to see was populist vs. populist, and that never happens, that fight never happens. It’s a fantasy fight.
Mark: Right. (laughs)
William: So we don’t see — I’m trying to think of a good Rocky fight — we don’t see the Russian Ivan Drago fight Clubber Lang.
Mark: Right. (laughs)
William: They have to fight an established champion. I mean, that would be a great fight, but (laughs). And that would’ve a great election if we had [Bernie and Trump] going at it, and believe me, it would be a much closer election — if I’m right. It would’ve been a much closer election. So, we’ll see what happens. I do understand that basically what I said is outside the comfort zone of many people listening to this program, and I’m generally — I do this quite a bit. I looked at Scotland, and people were saying, William, you’re going to be wrong about Scotland, and I called it right. So, it’s not like I do this once in a while.
I’ll tell you one Political Contest Horary election that I’m really proud of. There was a midterm election, there was an election between, the senatorial election in North Carolina, Kay Hagan. She was way ahead, and the mainstream media predicted she’s going to win. I did the horary snapshot based on the polls and oddsmakers for the North Caronlina race and I predicted that she’s not going to win. It was clear that it would become a decisive win for her GOP opponent. And I was right, and many people asked, wow, how’d you call it? Because I know this technique that I’ve been using since 2007 — and I keep tweaking and improving it — I know I can make valid calls, with 80 percent accuracy within 1.9 points within the margin of error in the polls. And I may be wrong about some of the states, in the forthcoming election, but I’m pretty confident now that Hillary is going to lose Pennsylvania at this point. And I know some people are going to call me and say, oh, no, that’s not what I’m hearing. But, Mark, I have clients all over the country — as you know, I do a lot of forecasting — and I ask them would you tell me who you voted for in 2008? And almost all say they voted for Obama. Then I ask them if they voted for Obama a second time, and there is a close split between Obama and Romney. But then I ask all my clients, especially the ones from your state, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and they’ll say, oh, no Trump. They’re not thinking of voting for Hillary. They’re voting for Trump, even though many voted for Obama twice. My New York friends say, oh, I’m voting for Trump. So, it’s my own unofficial poll from about 80 people from all different states who voted for Obama once or twice, but now, are telling me they are voting for Trump. Actually, two people said they are voting for Hillary. So what does that tell you?
Mark: That there is a monumental shift that is not being captured by the media or most of the mainstream astrologers or media of any sort. They still haven’t figured out what’s going on, after telling us what’s going to happen for the last year.
William: You know, I was on the phone with my mother today; she lives in Florida. And that’s a must-win state for Trump. And I asked her — she voted for Obama the first time, and I think she voted for Romney the second time, and some of her friends were split. She sees what’s going on there with the campaign. And I said to her this morning, you know, I hear Hillary’s numbers are improving in Florida, and she said, “I don’t know why the news is saying that because four years ago I saw Obama and Romney here, but now all I see is Trump.” You don’t even see anything happening there with Hillary. And she’s near the Orlando area. And she says that everyone in her retirement village are all for Trump. So I just heard this this morning, so I’m wondering, so where’s this Hillary surge in Florida coming from? And she works at Walmart, she doesn’t need to work there, she just does it to keep busy, she has a very good pension. But she talks to people, and she sees people in Walmart and she said they’re all in Trump shirts, Trump hats, etc. She says it’s like the election is going to be tomorrow. So, that’s Florida. And I thought that was interesting.
Mark: Right. I’m seeing that here in Ohio too. Probably three weeks ago or a month ago, we were saying, man, there’s just so few political signs. I’ve never seen this few political signs. Because usually once you get to after the conventions, that’s when they start going up, and there’s hardly been any. And then in the last three weeks, there were Trump signs just going up everywhere. We saw a dude with a big decked out Ford truck, he had it painted Trump and everything, and it’s like, counting yard signs and bumper stickers and stuff is not very scientific but looking at that, it’s like ten to one. And counting yard signs and stuff, Gary Johnson is second. (laughs)
Mark: So, I don’t know, maybe Clinton gets people at the end or they don’t want to deal with the harassment or whatever they feel they would get. I don’t know. But just looking at yard signs and bumper stickers it is not split evenly at all.
William: Yes, and you know, the fact that Hillary’s campaign is considering pulling out her entire Ohio operation is telling. She’s denying it but this is what we’re seeing all over the internet now. People are saying, yeah, she has to make a decision to pull out, they can’t keep sustaining the operations because they’re losing traction in other states. They’re losing in the Rust Belt, and her campaign just can’t figure it out. Because there’s massive underemployment and gigantic unemployment, and things have gotten worse in almost eight years since Obama’s taken office. Not that it’s totally his fault, but the fact that his stewardship of the economy is no better, or as worse G.W. Bush’s economy? No, let’s not talk about that; that cannot be the case, right? (Laughs)
Mark: Right. Right. (sigh) I have to say, (laughs) for me, this has been by far the most fun and fascinating election, I think, of my lifetime. (laughs) I mean, maybe it’s because I don’t have too much of a dog in this fight, but I just mean, the people-watching and they psychology study has just been amazing. (laughs)
William: Absolutely. It’s telling us a lot. When you listen, and you see what’s going on, you realize that people are really desperate. And I’m not saying that Donald Trump has the answer, because we don’t even know what that answer is.
William: We know that what he’s saying has nothing to do with what he’s really going to do. Everybody knows that, too. People say, yeah, yeah, yeah, he’s not really going to be build a wall; he’s just going to make sure the illegal immigration gets under control. I mean, people say that. People know that.
William: I mean, nobody cares about the fact that he doesn’t have to pay taxes because the tax law says if you take a loss, you don’t need to pay taxes until you’ve recovered from your loss. I mean, that’s the tax law. If you don’t comply with the tax law, you get audited, you get shut down. The IRS does that faster than any agency. People are not going to vote on that. Let me tell you something, folks — putting the astrology aside for a moment — Hillary Clinton is desperate. She needs to stop the Trump revolution in its tracks and she needs to make Trump unacceptable as an agent of change. She needs to get it down in these next two debates that Trump is unacceptable as an agent of change, which she wasn’t able to establish in the first one.
She just sort of neutralized him, but she didn’t change, she lost the message on that. Secondly, she needs — along with her campaign and the media along with the oligarchy all working in concert, to keep people distracted from their determination to rid incompetent politicians who are ruling outside the [constitutional] rule of law, composed of a corrupt ruling class, a political class if you will, that controls the capital and business infrastructure of the country. So basically, they need to keep people distracted.
And the third thing is that they have to keep people distracted from the betrayal that the government, especially the Obama Administration, of what has happened to the American working class. They have to distract voters from the continued acceleration of the outsourcing and de-industrialization of the country. To distract us from the loss of economic independence that America achieved by 1900, becoming the greatest economic superpower in the world. By 1900. You realize that. From the Civil War to 1900, America out-produced all the countries in the world combined by 1900. And by 1945 was the world’s greatest military, technological, industrial, cultural, agricultural superpower of all time. And what is it today? A shadow of its former self! So they have to keep people distracted and they have to keep this “extend and pretend” economic and financial policies going.
And let me tell you something else, folks, it is not the stock market. It’s the bond market, which is 17 times bigger than the stock market, which is going to implode. Everyone keeps talking about this. Why do you think Deutsche Bank is insolvent? Why do you think Credit Suisse actually said today, oh, we’re insolvent too. And Barclay’s said, we’re insolvent. Because it has to do with all this leveraged debt on the bonds, and just injecting liquidity, and keeping interest rates at zero and or at negative percent level.
Keep in mind that you can’t have bonds continue when you have negative or zero percent interest rates. And when that blows up, it’s the end of the banking system. It’s the end of governance over the financial system. So they have to keep the “extend and pretend” thing going and they have to keep distraction operations going, while Hillary has to make sure that she frames Trump as an unacceptable change agent for the country, regardless of what he says.
Most of the people out there are completely clueless about what’s really going on, I tell you. Many are living their little San Francisco bubble, or New York City bubble — and you know what I’m talking about, Mark — those privileged, entitlement folk who continue to act as if this is the year 2000 and this stuff is just irrelevant political posturing.
Folks, this is beyond a political posturing. We have now is a revolution going on with this election. The question is, is this a Category 1 or 2 event?
Mark: Right. (sigh) (laughs) We could probably go on for another 10 hours here.
Mark: Let’s make sure we get your contact info with the time we have left. While we have a chance here, tell everyone how they can get a reading from you or how to participate in your classes, tell people how to get a hold of you and what else you’ve got going on.
William: Probably right now they’re all freaked out and saying, I’m not getting a reading from that guy! The way he talks…
William: But the reality is that I tell it like I see it. I tell it like I see it in terms of the context of your own life. I provide solutions and strategies. I’m not just a guy who says, oh, I think Pluto is coming to your Sun and it’s going to be a little tough time but you’ll get through it and call me in a year. No, I’m not that type of astrologer. I’ll call it like I see it. I’ll provide you strategies. I’ll give you insight. I’ll get you out of your comfort zone to consider things you wouldn’t have considered. I will prep you accordingly. So don’t think I’m that type of astrologer that just leaves people high and dry.
So if I’m coming across in this interview that way it’s because I’m very passionate about what I’m saying and I’ve gotten a lot of kickback in a number of months because of what I’ve been seeing and constantly having to accept what the astrological community keeps pontificating, which is very contrary to what I’m seeing.
So, having said that, you can reach me at williamstickevers.com, or on Facebook. Reach out to me, I’m very open to discussing things. If you’re a staunch Democrat who believes Hillary wins by a landslide, that’s fine; I’m very open to what you believe, for I’m not partisan. I don’t mean to offend anyone but I have to state the position. We are beyond the point of plausible deniability, of extending and pretending, of just playing along with what we’re going to be told to do, pay out taxes, say nothing, just show up and pretend everything is fine. That is over with folks.
Mark: Yes. I agree, and I think the next month will be fascinating to watch. Kind of interesting that the first debate was on the day of a Pluto station. The third debate, I believe, is on the same day of a Mars-Jupiter or Mars-Pluto conjunction. But the second debate this Sunday, with the Moon in Capricorn and the Moon void-of-course. So it just feels like there’s a lot of intensity on the first and third debates, and not that the one Sunday isn’t going to have intensity, but things that happen sometimes during that Moon void-of-course tend not to stick with people afterwords.
William: I agree. I don’t think the second debate is really going to determine the outcome of the election for the undecideds in those seven battleground states. I think, because Pluto is very prominent in the third debate and it’s making — for there are some very good aspects going on there, I think Trumpzilla is going to unleash his atomic breath. You know, how at the end of Godzilla, you didn’t really know if he had that power.
Mark: Right. (laughs)
William: (laughs) Exactly. So I don’t want to give away the movie, but for those, we didn’t know if the new Godzilla had his atomic breath in the film, is because he doesn’t show it until the most dramatic and most opportune moment, and then BOOM.
Mark: (laughs) Right.
William: So that Mars-Pluto atomic breath, where the rage and the suppression — the people want Trump to nail her because she gets away with saying so much and she has moderators that protect her and she knows the questions beforehand. But here’s the thing — the transits are really going to help Trump, and I believe Trump will triumph at the end on the third debate. I believe that will be the moment when there will be “That’s it, I’ve made my decision.” I also believe, folks, that something is going to start give with the markets, and something is going to happen in the world, where there’s going to be a definitive crisis. We’re already in a crisis with Deutsche Bank, we can’t go into that, we don’t have time. But something is going to give and when those secular events set off, Trump is going to have better answers or at least he’s going to sound more convincing. He may not have a plan but he’ll sound more convincing, he will do something about it. He may not know what to do, but he’ll give the impression with that Mars-Pluto conjunction, I’m going to do this; I will do it. And people will be convinced. They want someone who’s going do something, because we’ve had a president, at least for the second term of Obama — you have to admit, Mark, for the second term, what has he done?
Mark: Oh, nothing. Nothing.
William: Exactly right, nothing! They want to see something dramatic, fast, and heroic. They want to see a President that they see in the movies. People want that. And he’s going to act that out with “I will do it,” whatever that be, and I believe it will be with a brewing crisis.
William: So it doesn’t have to sound so crafted. People don’t want to hear a perfectly crafted answer. They want to hear something authentic, real, and be convincing that he really is going to follow through and do what he really says. Right? And once they’re convinced, they’re going to vote Trump. I’m not talking about the people who’ve decided; I’m talking about the undecideds. And I don’t even care about the California folks, or the New York folks. I don’t care about New Hampshire folks. All I care about is Ohio, Pennsylvania, I care about Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Nevada. I’m looking at those states. Because once we know what’s going on in those states, that determines the outcome of the election. Nobody else.
Mark: I agree. And that takes us to the bottom of the hour here, we’ve got about five seconds I want to thank my guest William Stickevers for spending two hours and enlightening with us, and we will have you and Theodore both back on later this year, early next year to see what’s going on.
William: Thank you very much for having me, Mark. It’s a pleasure; it’s always great and I look forward to seeing you on Facebook and talking with you otherwise. Thanks.
Transcribed from “Mark The Rabbit Hole” Radio Show with Mark Metheny. Guest: William Stickevers
(Airdate: October 6, 2016)
Mark Metheny: Good evening, welcome to Mark The Rabbit Hole. Tonight our guest will be William Stickevers and he will be joining us shortly. We’re going to do our final look at the election and the polls, where they are now compared to when we started this earlier. William’s been on a few times previously talking about this. So I think our guest is there — William, is that you?
William Stickevers: That’s me. Hi, Mark.
Mark: How’s it going, my friend?
William: Good, good. Going great. How are you?
Mark: Good. Just enjoying the energies out there.
William: Yeah, there’s a lot going on. It’s been unrelenting. An unrelenting summer, and the fall has just been going full throttle with acceleration, pedal to the metal.
Mark: Yes, so I guess, first of all, I know some of the listeners know you but why don’t you give us your website and where they can find you and all that good stuff.
William: I’m at WilliamStickevers.com. I’m also listed on Facebook and I post many of my predictions there as well. I can be reached through that platform. As you know, Mark, I’m not only a regular personal consulting astrologer, part of my living practice is doing mundane astrology so I’m not just an astrologer who comes up every four years and decides I’m going to make a prediction on the general election. I’m predicting on world events, political affairs, financial matters, economic matters, almost weekly. So it’s a big part of my practice here.
Mark: Good. I know you’ve got a mundane or horary class going on right now?
William: Yeah, right now I have a 9-week mundane class that is designed for intermediate to world-class professionals; I’ve actually scaled it in such a way. And we’re covering every known technique including the history of mundane astrology up until the latest state-of-the-art techniques that have a consistent and proven track record of 65 percent or greater. I think everyone is learning a lot; I’m certainly learning a lot. Especially when you have to teach something, and articulate it and put together a PowerPoint presentation that’s not going to be boring, that’s going to build upon itself, that’s going to keep everyone interested and informed, and something that they can apply to their practice immediately was a big challenge for me. But I’ve been having a great time doing it and I’m getting a lot of great feedback from my students who, also, some of them happen to be world class mundane, world class financial astrologers. So it’s really great. Half my class is international; the other half is America-based.
Mark: Awesome. So if anyone needs more details, is there going to be a second round of this class coming up?
William: Absolutely. We’re going to be doing it next year, and I’m going to include some new additional material which I could not include in this one because it required more prep time. Also, in these classes, especially in this one, we are having in a couple weeks our guest lecturer is Theodore White who is going to go over the fundamentals of weather forecasting with the class. So he’s going to run that class and I’m just going to be participating and listening and learning. So we’re very excited about that; we’re all big fans of Theodore. I know you are as well. And in the future I’m going to include some other people to maybe talk about earthquake prediction, volcano prediction, people with those specialties.
As you know, my specialty is more political and economics; that seems to be where I’m drawn and focused to and pulled toward, actually. But mundane is such a broad, broad subject; it covers so many things and it’s very fascinating. Unfortunately, the word is “mundane”, which means something very contemporary, boring, ordinary. But mundane astrology is quite the opposite, quite different than what the title suggests. And I know my students, many of them have taken personal astrology pretty far. Many of them who are intermediates and even dabbling or considering doing a full-time practice have realized, ‘I don’t think I can do too much more with personal astrology or psychological astrology; I need to broaden my understanding, my world view’ and they thought learning mundane was a great way for this to happen. So because it broadens their perspective and so they can understand there are other forces outside the personal sphere of influence that are actually having an impact in people’s decision-making, and that is something that — I think we’ve had many discussions about this on other shows, and I know we’ve talked about this one-to-one — is something that’s really marginalized and overlooked or not even discussed in natal astrology.
Mark: Yes, yes, people are often stunned when I tell them that I have charts of all the professional sports teams and all the countries and that it’s not just looking at a person’s horoscope or birth chart but that government agencies have charts, restaurants that you eat at have charts, every business has a chart. So people are usually surprised when I tell them that and so it’s not just the workings of your chart that you can look at but you can look at events and elections, sporting events, whatever, and see how there’s different energies playing and there’s charts for the specific events too. And I think people, especially the astrology naysayers are surprised that it’s not just fluffy unicorns and “stay away from Virgos today” and that kind of stuff. I think that catches people off-guard when they know how much detail you can go into.
William: Absolutely. And you know, what I find amazing is– there’re two types of people outside of astrology in terms of mundane. Many people find it fascinating when you can talk with such authority and detail looking at history backwards for justification of planetary alignments with events that changed the course, game-changing events or watershed events in history, and then talking about the future in a very informed, detailed way and how the future is actually impacting and informing the present. And then so there’s that group who is really fascinated, and there’s another group of people out there who are really threatened by it. I mean really threatened by it, almost as if you were talking about Bernie [Sanders] to a rabid George Bush supporter. So it goes one way or the other.
Now, what I find interesting about astrology is that many people who do natal, non-predictive natal astrology, many of them who are practicing psychotherapists or MSW workers, they are very ambivalent about really stating their opinion [on mundane astrology]. In fact, when you go to these [astrology] conferences, you see the rooms for sun sign astrology lectures filled up and packed to the brink. Secondary progressions, you can’t get a waiting seat. Come to big transits, forget about it — you’re going to have to find an alternative track for the 2 o’clock period. But mundane is only, what, like 10-15 people there with a room that could fill 50. And I just find this really fascinating.
It’s actually disconcerting to me and I just don’t understand what’s going on with the body-politic of astrologers these days when there’s so much going on in the world, that everything is being turned upside-down, inside-out, economically, politically, socially, on every level. And yet, the astrology world — you know, Mark. I’ve been to all these conferences since the early ’90s; it’s not like I’m not in the know. I know. I know all these top speakers; they know me on a first-name basis. So here’s the thing: the astrologers in general, as a group — and I’m not pointing anyone out in particular — are not keeping up with the bigger trends. They just seem to be disengaged and disinterested. And maybe there was a reason for that, because it was “stick it to the man”, “who cares about what’s going on”, right, maybe that hippie/Baby Boomer attitude and world view was responsible for that.
But today that’s obsolete. We’ve gotten past the point of plausible deniability. Things are really not going right in so many ways, which I know we’re going to discuss. So I think it’s fascinating that a lot of people in the astrology world, there’s a small but growing minority of people getting drawn into mundane. Even if they don’t plan to make mundane their living practice, they want to know what it’s about, what it has to say, how mundane archetypal portents influence the archetypal landscape and shape and inform the world stage. So they think it’s important now because they see something is going on and it’s very upsetting, frightening. In fact, for all intents and purposes, we’re in the Twilight Zone.
Mark: I agree. One of the things to me is that astrology is several thousand years old. I mean, to me one of our jobs is to keep it evolving and moving forward and keep testing ideas and make sure that Uranus, Aquarius rules astrology, so we need to keep that evolving and I just think, I run across a lot of ideology where they just want to keep it stuck or back into the old ideas and concepts without developing it any. And so to me the predicting earthquakes, tsunamis, earth changes, and things is one of the most relevant and helpful things we can do to help keep evolving astrology.
And also, I’ve seen a few comments where someone like you will, say, has made some predictions, and people get upset and say “oh, so you want this to happen” and it startles me that some people are not able to look past their personal preferences or how they would like things to turn out, and they just try to bend things to what their preconceived idea is. And I think this election has been a great example of this because it’s not gone at all how I expected. But I think you’re one of the few people who’s had your finger really on the pulse of what’s been happening and not been blinded by their preconceptions. So, kudos to you on that one.
William: Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate that. And you know, I tell you something, one of the things I teach my students is that we need to be nonpartisan and independent in our thinking, in our viewpoints. Let the testimonies speak for themselves. If we are weighing them properly and we are being as objective as we can — and it’s very difficult to do that — but if we do that, we’re going to be within about the 80th percentile of accuracy. We’re not always going to be right, and nobody is.
Just keep in mind that the greatest stock market trader Bill Gross — he’s one of the best bond traders in the world — is only right 53 percent of the time. You only need to be right 53 percent of the time in order to make billions of dollars in the stock market, to have it all, to have your cake and eat it too on Wall Street. And you know, 53 percent is a landslide in politics.
So, you know, the expectation of the mainstream media experts and critics of astrology out there is like, “no, unless it’s 99.9999999 percent, this doesn’t work.” You could be 80 percent, “nope, still doesn’t cut it.”
So, I’m telling people here and my students, stick with the astrology. If you want to make an argument or a speculation that a certain thing will manifest in such a way, you need to prove it out with me. You need to show me multiple testimonies, multiple techniques. You can’t just say one thing. You have to layer it and build it up. You have to think vertically here, meaning you can’t just say a one-testimony, one-chart, one-transit approach does all, says all, is all. And that’s basically what we’ve been fed, at least I know I’ve been fed for the past 30 years.
And you know, the only reason I’ve been more on the pulse of the election is because I’ve been just looking at the mundane portents and I’ve known — and this is something that Theodore White and I discussed back this time last year — we knew it was going to be an establishment candidate backed by the American oligarchical elite, that would be [Jeb] Bush or Hillary Clinton, versus a populist candidate. So we eliminated very early on that [Jeb] Bush would be the nominee. And we also eliminated that Bernie would be the nominee. So we knew that it would be Hillary versus a Uranus-Pluto dark horse candidate that was going to turn everything upside-down, inside-out, destroy the body-politic of the nation. And that’s why we — well, I certainly came to the conclusion first, and Theodore followed up shortly thereafter, came to the conclusion that it was going to be Trump. And Trump is the beginning of the first phase, or a category one social revolution. This is not just another election like 99 percent of the astrologers — and I’m going to keep saying that, I know that’s a lot of people — but 99 percent of the astrologers kept framing it as another Bush-Gore election 2000, except on steroids. No! No! No! No! NO! This is not just another election. We’re seeing [the first phase of] a social revolution.
Just the fact of what had to happen in order for Trump to be the nominee. The fact that Hillary Clinton technically lost that campaign and is still the nominee, has completely medically collapsed and wasn’t disqualified after she was medically diagnosed with pneumonia is just startling. Also, we are seeing the populist rise, the populist or the nationalist versus the Establishment and the Oligarchy. This is a collision, a titanic collision of an immovable object with an unstoppable force, and they’re colliding here [in 2016]. This is just the beginning of things to come, folks!
I know you are aware of this, Mark, but I’m just talking here to your audience here. It’s just the beginning….and you haven’t seen nothing yet. This is just a prelude. And I proved this out in my Mundane Astrology class. My students have recently come to understand the rules [of analysis] behind ingress charts, eclipses, and other mundane [astrology] rules. I asked them if you just look at [and apply] the rules and assume nothing else, does it tell you that the party in power or the establishment in power, [minus the oligarchical dimension behind who is really running the government,] will remain or stay in power? Is that likely, more or less? And most everyone in class was in general agreement, stating “yeah, you’re right, I hate to say it,” but it looks like the party in power or the [party that is the] facade of the establishment is NOT likely to stay in power. Now having said that, does that mean that Trump instantly wins? No, it doesn’t. But it means that right from the outset the party in power – the Democrats had a structural problem, from a mundane perspective. A structural problem.
Mark: Yeah, right, right, I agree because it was going back to the 2008 elections which was, I believe shortly after, I think Uranus had just entered Aries if I’m not mistaken, and so it was kind of obvious who the Uranian candidate was at that point.
William: Yeah, and the other thing too is that the Civil Rights Movement occurred in the 1960s. From ’62 to ’72 the Civil Rights Movement really unfolded and was one of the game-changing socio-political developments in the nation. And that had to do with the Uranus-Pluto conjunction, and then [in 2008] you had the approaching Uranus-Pluto square and the rise of Barack Obama who as a black candidate who was born during the emergence of the Uranus-Pluto conjunction and was an ideal expression for that Uranus-Pluto energy that began to manifest in 2008.
But unfortunately he didn’t quite live up to the energy. I mean, he got the job, he got the position because of the energy that was constellating for hope and change you can believe in, right, but it didn’t quite turn out that way. In fact, I would say that — and again this is going to upset a lot of people — that Barack Obama is essentially an establishment candidate, and establishment president who had the backing and the support of America’s Oligarchical Elite. Also, he carries out that oligarchical agenda that essentially sets the policy for this nation and other nations abroad, domestically, internationally, and financially. And he basically rubber stamps their globalist agenda into policy, and he is really no different than his predecessor G.W. Bush.
Mark: Yeah, I have to agree with that. And you’re right, that’s probably going to ruffle a lot of feathers and I’ve gotten into many discussions like that. But the thing that I look at is, regardless of what party is in power, does the advancement of the One State, the oligarchy agenda keep moving forward? I mean, Obama said he would get rid of NAFTA. I, until recently, had to cover the local newspaper right before the 2008 election he was here in Columbus, Ohio, where I was, and his main topic was getting rid of NAFTA. And now eight years later, not only have we not gotten rid of NAFTA, but now we’re going to cram the TPP down people’s throats.
So, it just doesn’t, nothing ever goes in our favor. It always goes towards the One World Government and no matter who the president is or who the candidates are or what they look like of where they’re from or what creed or nationality, whoever gets in there advances that agenda.
William: Correct. I totally agree. It’s certainly been that case since the assassination of John F. Kennedy, which was basically a coup d’état for all intents and purposes, and that’s pretty much been proven out [in a Congressional Investigation in the 1970s] that there was a conspiracy, and it was never followed up and investigated with.
But what we see now with this Uranus-Pluto still very active, that is the rise of a dark horse candidate which, as you know, that a majority of the mundane astrology world and most of the astrology world in general just refuses to come to terms with. And it has to do with Trump’s brazen style and character.
In fact, I was joking around for a long time using the term “Trumpzilla” because whoever gets in his way, he just seems to pulverize them [with his “atomic breath”]. In fact, the harder the media hits him, the stronger he gets in the polls. In fact, [recently] CNN jokingly pushed up an image of Godzilla with Trump, calling him “Trumpzilla”. I took a snapshot and posted it.
Mark: I saw that.
William: Yeah. And so, I’ve been calling him Trumpzilla and I’ve been writing “Trumpzilla is the Uranus-Pluto dark horse candidate that the astrology world refuses to come to terms with” and needs to wake up about. They really need to wake up to the reality of what Trump represents.
I’m not talking about Donald Trump the Candidate and what he says. I’m talking about the impact he’s having and how he is constellating by activating the suppressed rage in the country on a collective level, which has reached a neurotic level of intensity, bordering on psychosis, as the archetypal energy continues to change, accelerate, and intensify. Trump is playing this out perfectly. He’s breaking every [political] rule. The more outrageous he is — meaning, the he continues proposing extreme solutions, which was very Uranus-Pluto, the stronger his support gets. We knew Bernie was doing that as well, but Trump takes the cake.
Mark: Yep, absolutely. And even, I mean, it was so crazy even I wasn’t quite sure. I was like, “Is this going to end at some point?” But you’re right, you kept just moving forward with “you guys aren’t looking at the energy, you’re trying to force your preconceived notions” — which I was doing a little bit too, and as the groundswell kept happening, I thought “Oh my gosh, William’s right; he’s tapped into this.”
William: Well, let me finish this because I just wanted your confirmation because some people think I just make this up and I’m trying to grand stand and pat myself on the back. And you know that’s not the case, because I know you’ve been following my work and I’m really very grateful that I’m here to speak on your show about it.
The thing is that when Trumpzilla started piling up the victories in the primaries, the very same pundits and astrologers stated he would never get the GOP nomination. And I remember the astrologers saying, “Okay, William, you were right this time, BUT he’s never going to get the nomination, they’ll never give it to him, they’re going to break the rules, they’re going to rob him, [and besides] he’ll never get the delegates.” And then when Trumpzilla won the GOP nomination, many of his critics warned that if he ended up on the November ballot he would get blown out by Hillary Clinton and take out scores of Republicans running for the House and Senate with him, meaning it would be a complete disaster on the ticket. In fact, just the other day, the great political forecaster Damon Linker, a senior correspondent at TheWeek.com, along with several other astrologers who were loosely quoting from him said, “Trump isn’t merely going to lose; he’s going to lose in the biggest popular vote landslide in modern presidential history. It’s not crazy to even think he will finish with less than 35 percent of the popular vote.”
And then you had astrologers pushing that around. This was just a week or two ago. And the fact of the matter is that we do have enough raw political data coming in statistically on how Trump has been doing. I’m not just talking about national polls; I’m talking at the local level in all the key battleground states. And not just the key battleground states, in the key battleground counties of those battleground states. And to the surprise of many, especially in Washington, and to the shock of the astrologers, he is hasn’t been doing badly at all. In fact, he is doing pretty well because the polls are showing he is now slightly ahead in the battleground states of Ohio, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Colorado, and he’s tied with Hillary as of today in Nevada. He was slightly ahead a week ago; he’s now tied but he’s holding his own. And he just left Nevada on a two-day tour there.
Keep in mind, Trump should be getting killed in these states, and Hillary should be — at this point with the money, the ads, the backing of the oligarchy backing, CNN (the “Clinton News Network”) and the entire legacy mainstream media — she should be 50 points ahead of him at this point!
You know, even recent polls have shown Trump now pulling ahead. He’s basically tied and pulling ahead in Pennsylvania. He’s even with her in New Hampshire. He’s tied with her in Virginia. He pulled slightly ahead in Colorado. But Pennsylvania is a state that Hillary Clinton needs to win. In all the key battleground counties that have the most accurate trend prediction rate all show Trump ahead by 8-12 points, not one point.
So, it just doesn’t make sense [that Hillary is winning]. I mean, you’re talking about Michigan here. Trump is one point behind in Michigan, tied in Wisconsin. He’s only four points behind in New Mexico.
I mean, look, folks, it is clear that the astrological community, the pundits, the media have overestimated Hillary’s campaign and tremendously marginalized and underestimated Trump’s campaign thus far. And nobody has really been talking about this.
Mark: I agree. I figured she would be way ahead at this point and I have something that I’ve talked about a couple of the other shows that you’ve been on and a couple other shows I’ve been on. There’s just been this tendency to write off — and first of all, I’m going to say I have no intention of voting for Trump, I am not a Trump supporter, I tend to vote third party, every election since I’ve been alive I think I’ve voted third party — but it’s just this rush to judgement to write off all of his followers as white trash, racist, trailer park dwellers. And perhaps there is, there may be a percentage, as politically incorrect as that is, there may be a percentage that maybe fit that category.
But what I keep telling my Democrat friends is that what you are not seeing is you have to put yourself in the shoes of people who have been Republicans for a long time. You have to take a look at Romney, who took a dive at the end. They threw in McCain in ’08, that flip-flopped so many times that you couldn’t trust him. In ’04 that was Bush Jr.’s second term, and he barely won but by half that second term most of the Republicans, old school or not, were not very happy with him. Bush Jr. won in 2000, Dole in ’96 — I don’t think anybody feels that Dole was a strong candidate. Then we had Bush Sr. who won in ’88 and got beaten fairly badly in ’92.
So, for the people who are Republicans, I don’t think that they feel — and I’ve said this 50 times and I know everyone has ignored it the first 50 times but I’m going to be that idiot who says it a 51st time — I don’t think the old school, the average middle-class Republican voter feels that they have gotten a fair shake or had a decent candidate in the last seven elections, since, I’ll go back to say since Reagan was the last candidate that was really well liked by the Republican party. I think Bush the first time it was kind of a “oh, well, he’s [Bush] Sr.’s son” and all that stuff, and there’s this, I think, a large group of Trump supporters are these people who have said “I have had enough of getting screwed” — not by the Democrats, they’re not pissed off at the Democrats. They’re pissed off at their own party for putting up crap candidates every four years, and the decent candidates that they do have early on in the primaries, they push them to the side when they have a Ron Paul or somebody who is a good candidate, they just put them to the side at the debates, ask them two questions in a three-hour debate, all this stuff. And I think a portion of Trump’s supporters are the people who have finally said, “I’ve had it. You’ve screwed me for seven or eight elections in a row, and we’re going to sink the Titanic so that hopefully we can rebuild it” because the Republican party leaders were not at all in any shape or form listening to their constituents. And I’m sure no one heard that. But I said it again anyways.
William: (laughs) Well, here’s the thing. Let’s get into the particulars. Mark, I sent you a link where I posted the charts for this show. [Charts posted below] And for those of you who are not in front of the internet just to let you know, it’s WilliamStickevers.com/marktherabbithole and it has all the graphs I want to discuss.
My approach, my argument on how I see the election going down, I’m looking at all three different [birth] times for Hillary using my Blackbox forecasting technology that’s very accurate. We use it quite often in making financial trading decisions and investing. It’s one of the great technologies that Alphee Lavoie needs to get more credit for.
I also just want to mention this before, I have to say this. Trump is not a Republican. I mean, he’s running on the platform of the Republican party but everybody knows he is not a Republican. He is basically a Trumpzilla, Uranus-Pluto dark horse candidate, an aberration of the collective unconscious of the nation that is now in a neurotic breakdown that has captured or heisted the nomination from the GOP establishment (that is basically backed by the Bush faction of the American oligarchical elite) who is basically have a platform and foreign policy that goes actually counter to a majority of GOP narratives that were established for the past 60 years.
So I just want to state again, I’m neutral on this all. I am nonpartisan. I am not for either party. But Trump is GOP in title only.
Mark: Right, right. So I just posted that link to William’s website to the page that has these charts and graphs he’s talking about. I just posted it in the chat room and on my Facebook page and I’ll post it on the Rabbit Hole Facebook page as well so you don’t have to go digging for them you can just click on that link.
So, go right ahead, William.
William: Yeah, so basically, everyone is like “I don’t get it. Why does Trump have all this, what is the demand there? What is all this popularity? Why do they listen to him?” And I keep basically stating this — that we never had an economic recovery. That was basically, the economic crisis, the Lehman meltdown that resulted in the near-collapse of the American and global economy but that was vanguard by the fraudulence that was going on Wall Street and the Fed backed by Washington, with Washington’s blessings, almost destroyed the financial world.
They basically paved it over and they covered it up. They put the damage control into place and they kept the game of “extend and pretend” going. Then they got the media who is part of the oligarchical mouthpiece to pontificate and convince, especially the astrologers out there, that a recovery occurred starting June 2009 and had been achieved by [Spring] 2016. However, when we look at macroeconomic data, especially global trade worldwide, we see on this graph here [shown above] that we’ve are seeing a complete collapse. The source for the graph is from the World Bank, Goldman Sachs, Global Investment Research. These are the very people that backed the Bushes, and Hillary, by the way.
So what we’ve seen is a four-year rolling sensitivity of real trade growth collapsing in real GDP terms. And we see here the U.S. recession where there was a downturn, a trough, in 1960-61. The oil shock in ’79. And then we see when the Soviet Union disintegrates in ’91, you see the global economy really taking off and everything peaking by the late ’90s, early 2000. And then we see a series of downward motion of the wave pattern. Then we see China’s entry into the World Trade Organization, 2001. And then we have a collapse that occurred in 2008, and then we see all this money printing and injection of liquidity into the system, with interest rates pushed down to almost zero percent worldwide. In fact, now they’re negative worldwide with the exception of this country, and the Federal Reserve is talking about even going negative next year! What you are seeing here is the Obama Recovery in 2016, at a point lower than at any time since 1947 when they started tracking Global Trade.
So [in essence] we are seeing a complete collapse in the global economy. And there was no recovery — there was a cover-up.
Now I could show 40, 50 graphs to prove this out further. Mark, [in previous shows] you’ve seen me go at it one graph after the other. We have 25 percent underemployment in this country. We have 47 percent of the people who get subsidized by the U.S. government who don’t pay federal taxes. We have 96.7 million people who no longer get unemployment who fell off the workforce radar; they’ve given up looking for work. And we only have 155 million people working out of a population of 327 million — or 320 million, depending on what source you use. And of that 155 million working, 25 percent is underemployed, meaning they have to work two or three jobs and they still cannot pay the mortgage, and they’re barely paying the rent.
And inflation, by the way, they keep saying it’s 1-2 percent. When you look at the real numbers, the way the Federal Reserve was calculating inflation up until 1990, inflation is about 7-8 percent a year. And it was actually 11 percent between 2008 and 2012.
Salaries haven’t been raised since 1991. The United States economy has decreased in size three-fold since 199, a three-fold breakdown! The deleveraging of the middle class since 2008 has been tremendous. It hasn’t recovered.
And you have 40 percent of Millennials living at home, and the ones who are not living at home are all shacked up with five other people in a two-bedroom.
So, you know, things are not going well. For anyone who’s still a naysayer [that the economy hasn’t recovered], I can inundate you with 27 statistics that will blow your mind.
But here’s the point — all of this is driving the Trump campaign. The country is in a demoralized state, and in a state of neurotic breakdown because there was no direction, no future. The moment when people freak out on a personal or mass level is when they know it’s not going to get better. It’s not when things are bad. The moment they know it’s not going to get better when THEY LOSE IT, and that’s when you see what’s happening now. That’s when you see Hitler come to power. That’s when you see the British Exit. That’s when you see the rise of Donald Trump, Trumpzilla. That’s all because it’s being generated by a collapsing economy that is accelerating and intensifying as the train wreck unfolds.
I think it’s really really clear at this point. And there’s no magic [to fix it]. It’s all in the secular data. And that is something that 90 percent of the astrologers keep continuing to overlook, as they keep focused at the natal horoscopes and not realizing what else is there – they don’t look at the secular data.
If you don’t correlate what the outer planetary alignments and the ingresses and the eclipse charts and the charts of the top G-11 or G-8 nations, with the secular trends you’re not going to understand what is driving the populism since 2011, since we had the Arab Spring. And look at all the protests that were occurring in Europe.
And look at the protests on Wall Street, what was it called? We would talk about this a few years back.
Mark: The Occupy Movement.
William: Right – the Occupy Wall Street Movement, where what came out of the was the One Percent and the 99 Percent. So everyone knows today, “Yeah, I’m the 99 percent.” And who’s the One Percent? Well, that’s a mystery; you can’t talk about that. We know how many people are the One Percent, but we don’t know who they are. And that’s the oligarchy. And the people that run the oligarchy are the 0.1 percent of the One Percent.
Then [in 2013] you have the NSA revelations of Edward Snowden that came out that have turned the geopolitical world inside-out, upside-down. And there’s more revelations every day. And then you have Wikileaks, along with all the uprisings and shootings [in the country]. It goes on and on. The unemployment continues to accelerate while they continue to state that unemployment is now at four percent. That is why you have a Donald Trump [as the GOP nominee ] today, folks.
So, astrologers, get with the reality! You just don’t seem to get it! I’m not the only guy. Mark’s been telling you, I’ve been telling you, Theodore White’s been telling you There’s been a lot of astrologers telling you, and you’re just simply refusing to get it. So that’s step one. I want to get to the next thing.
Look at what’s going on right now. The S&P 500 return of the presidential elections. So when the S&P 500 price between July 31 and October 31 is net negative, that is a very reliable indicator that the party in power, seeking re-election, will lose or they’ll be completely replaced. And as of today, it is net negative. Back in 2012, it was a very close race between Obama and Romney. But the S&P returns were 2.4 percent in the black. Now it is something like 3.2 percent in the red. And so the prediction probability that the party in power will be completely replaced — because this is not a re-election, this is a referendum election on the Obama Administration’s past two terms so it’s a replacement election — is 86 percent right now. And we’re not even talking about astrology yet. Eighty-six percent! There’s a structural problem right now from an economic level, from a financial level as well. So when the astrologers say ‘Hillary wins no matter what and they get to say that and pontificate that because they write for the Huffington Post’ — and you know who I’m talking about here — they continue to misinform the public and the astrological community [about the true state of affairs in the country].
Mark: I totally agree. Totally agree. I’ve seen just in my personal circle, you know, extended family and stuff, I’ve seen the employment and wage-earning been way down. And I want to point out that I don’t think this is an Obama trick or something. I mean, every president who’s been in power during difficult financial times has, you know, we can spin numbers to make things look not as bad, so they all do this, but there’s definitely a lot of spinning going on right now.
William: Absolutely. I think what’s really been pontificated by the mainstream media is this: Keep calm and pretend everything is okay. I’m going to repeat that. Keep calm and pretend everything is okay. And I think that fits perfectly with the Jupiter-Saturn-Neptune T-Square that was in play all throughout the summer —
William: Nothing was okay. Everyone knows something is really wrong. They may point to it’s this or it’s that. We may not all agree on what’s wrong but we all know something is systemically wrong. And yet we have a media that says “Keep calm and pretend everything is okay.” We have people in leadership in astrology who say “Keep calm, relax, Trump ain’t gonna win, he’s not going to get it, this is all just a kabuki dance going on, and you’ll realize sooner or later that everything is okay. So calm down and listen to this voice of reason.”
William: Okay, there’re some New York astrologers out there who are saying this.
William: And when you live on a trust fund and then you get to speak how it’s all going to turn out from your NCGR podium in New York City, you can say stuff like that. But you can’t say stuff like that to people who are really suffering. And then I want to get to the next thing here.
Now, I’m just getting really sick and tired of this Hillary Clinton birth time thing. So I just said, okay. I’ve held back, Mark. I could have published this earlier but I waited for your show.
Mark: (laughs) Okay, great.
William: This Blackbox graphical analysis takes all the transits active during a period of time, and takes over 720 factors that are related to career. Including every solar arc, every progression and every backward transit. It [essentially] takes every astrological factor and then runs it against a weighing system that modifies and changes according to the [planetary weight] that compose the horoscope and then it curves and fits it and then it makes a projection over time. And what I did here is I took the three times that are listed that most astrologers are basing their predictions on — the 2:18am birth time, the 8:02am birth time, and the 8:00pm birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 2:18 am CST birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 2:18 am CST birth time. Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 8:02 am CST birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 8:02 am CST birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 8:00 pm CST birth time.
Hillary Clinton Horoscope: 8:00 pm CST birth time.
And I’m going to tell you something right now. All three are indicating that Hillary is losing support as we go further into the election. Basically what I can say that is consistent about all of these graphs is that she peaks sometime around, between October 1st and October 10th, and then it’s a downward slide. And for the astrologers who are rooting for their time [of choice], her 2:18am time looks more of like a landslide loss. If she was born at 8:00 pm, which Bill Meridian has been using to a fair degree of success, it’s a loss but it’s not quite the loss that is indicated. You could argue that it could be a very close election, that it could go either way. And the 8:02 am time — and I know some people use 8:06am — certainly indicates a decisive defeat for Hillary Clinton. All three. The only one that really supports, that it might be a close election, is the 8:00 pm time, but it does not augur a decisive victory as astrologers continue to pontificate.
Here we see Donald Trump’s Career Blackbox Forecast. And that’s taking the same factors, using the same technology, using the same timeline. We see Trump going enormous volatile swings from July all the way ’til it hits bottom on the 10th of September, and then he starts climbing up. It’s a slow climb and then it really starts picking up speed from October 20th all the way to Election Day. So we’re seeing a lot of volatility, up and down, up and down, which is Trump’s number, Trump’s campaign has gone through extremes of restructuring and shifting people around, with him going back and forth on policy positions. And then he gets on message, as he has recently, starting around September 10th, and that accelerated his campaign. You can see he’s now reading from a teleprompter, he still goes off and says what he wants but he’s much better behaved. He’s a much better behaved Trumpzilla.
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***ABOUT THE WEBINAR***
There are many methods in astrology to predict the outcomes of political elections, however, the track record of accuracy using many of those methods is often no better than tossing a coin.
William’s approach-based traditional horary technique has over an 80% accurate track record since 2007. In this webinar we will take astrological divination to a new level in predicting political contests through a step-by-step approach to determining the proper odds, polls, and rules to delineate a contest horary chart.
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***ABOUT OUR SPEAKER***
A counseling astrologer since 1990, mostly in New York City and now in San Francisco, WILLIAM STICKEVERS is well versed in Psychological, Horary, Electional, Medieval, and Renaissance branches of astrology. He worked with Alphee Lavoie of the Astrological Institute of Research (AIR). William’s also certified in Astro*Carto*Graphy.
He’s lectured for the National Council for Geocosmic Research (NYC, Long Island, New Jersey, and San Francisco chapters), American Federation of Astrologers (Los Angeles), the Astrological Society of Connecticut, and in Germany (Munich), Romania (Bucharest), and Japan (Tokyo, Osaka, Yokohama). Most recently William was invited by Kepler College to be part of a webinar panel of 5 select astrologers to discuss the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election and all other geopolitical and societal factors leading up to it. For more information visit his website at http://williamstickevers.com/.
Unlike many astrologers out there, I track the incoming raw polling data from all the Key Battleground States (sorry, but New York and California are on among them). Since late August Hillary’s poll numbers have plummeted around 9-10 points with Trump reaching parity with her by September 16th, indicating her campaign has lost its footing and momentum and needed a jolt from this debate.
Hillary, the favorite to win the General Election, had all the pressure on her and needed a big, defining moment last night to game-change her campaign, and didn’t get it. As of today, she now trails Trump in key battleground states won by President Obama in 2012, and the national polling is tied. Even though the mainstream media has scored a win for Hillary, keep in mind that Trump is the outsider in a year when two-thirds (69%) of the American people think the nation is on the wrong track.
The bottom line is Hillary’s campaign is rapidly losing altitude, a fact that her supporters are aware of, and even the press can no longer deny. The trend lines are not in her favor, and she doesn’t have the luxury of a good economy to run on, nor the astrological transits to her natal horoscope for that matter. If Hillary’s performance is not good enough to stop Trump’s momentum in the coming days ahead, something needs to change, and change fast.
Prediction: Trump’s momentum will continue to accelerate and intensify, with his poll numbers in the Key Battle Ground States of Pennsylvania and Virginia superseding Hillary’s in the coming weeks ahead.
FOR THE RECORD…
• I am more committed to the truth and outcome of political contest than my own political expectations or preferences. • I call it as I see it, not as I want it. • I have been a registered Independent since 1984. • I am a political atheist; I don’t believe in political parties.
Hillary Clinton and the Annular Solar Eclipse – September 1, 2016 Transiting Neptune will be directly opposing the Hillary’s Uranus/Ascendant midpoint and opposing her progressed Mars, indicating that we can expect sudden undermining revelations and developments as a result of former associations with foreign countries, along with a modest but significant loss of political momentum that set up the prospect of a major shakeup in her Presidential campaign team and strategy as the General Election begins to ramps up.
Keep in mind that when Donald Trump announced he would run for President, almost every political pundit and most every astrologer out there for that matter, stated he would politically implode and fade away by the time of the Iowa Caucus.
Then when Trump started piling up the victories in the primaries, the same pundits and astrologers stated he would never get the GOP nomination. Then when Trump won the GOP nomination many of his critics warned that if he ended up on the November ballot he would get blown out by Hillary Clinton and take out scores of Republicans running for the House and Senate with him. In fact just the other day, the great political forecaster Damon Linker a senior correspondent at TheWeek.com (that several mundane forecasting astrologers have loosely quoted from) said,
“Trump isn’t merely going to lose. He’s going to lose in the biggest popular vote landslide in modern presidential history. … It’s not crazy to think he’ll finish with less than 35 percent of the popular vote.”
The fact of the matter is that we now have enough raw polling data that statistically shows how Trump is doing right now – and, to the surprise of many inside the D.C. Beltway, he’s doing shockingly better then they ever thought possible. In fact he is not doing that bad at all.
Since the recent Jupiter in Libra Ingress on September 9th, polls show Trump pulling ahead in the battleground states of Ohio, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Colorado and Nevada. Former GOP nominees John McCain and Mitt Romney lost all of these states in 2008 and 2012, with the exception of North Carolina in 2012.
If his numbers hold, Trump is only a state or two away from cobbling together the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House; and there’s fertile ground for more Trump pickups all over the map with New Hampshire, and Virginia .
In many purple states where Hillary Clinton is leading, Trump is running way ahead of where Romney was in 2012: in Maine, Trump is besting Romney’s numbers by seven points; in Michigan, it’s four points; in New Mexico and Wisconsin, it’s two points; and in Pennsylvania, it’s one point.
So, if you are going just by the numbers, there’s no question that Trump is a much stronger general election candidate than was Romney, and Clinton is a much weaker candidate then Obama.
The 1st Presidential debate at Hempstead, New York, is being held one day after a Washington Post-ABC News poll revealed that Clinton’s slim advantage over Trump from last month has completely evaporated. At any rate my message to the mainstream media pundits and the “Hillary wins no matter what” astrologers who continue to forecast a decisive Clinton victory, is given these polling numbers, Trump’s unprecedented candidacy is not indicative of a forthcoming GOP ticket disaster. In fact, the only disaster that we’ve seen so far is the catastrophic collapse of all of the political pundits’ predictions, including most of the astrologers.
FOR THE RECORD…
• I am more committed to the truth and outcome of political contest than my own political expectations or preferences. • I call it as I see it, not as I want it. • I have been a registered Independent since 1984. • I am a political atheist; I don’t believe in political parties.
Edgar Cayce (March 18, 1877 – January 3, 1945) was an American Christian psychic, healer, spiritual teacher, and mystic, who answered questions on subjects as varied as healing, astrology, reincarnation, wars, Atlantis, and future events while under a self-induced hypnotic trance. Other abilities that have been attributed to Cayce include astral projection, prophesying, mediumship, viewing the Akashic Records or “Book of Life”, and seeing auras. Cayce said he became interested in learning more about these subjects after he was informed about the content of his readings, which he reported that he never actually heard himself. Biographer Jess Stearn gave him the nickname, “The Sleeping Prophet.” A nonprofit organization, the Association for Research and Enlightenment (A.R.E.), was founded to facilitate the study of Cayce’s work. A hospital and a university were also established.
Cayce became a celebrity toward the end of his life, and he believed the publicity given to his prophecies overshadowed the more important parts of his work, such as healing the sick and studying religion. Today, a total of 14,306 of his readings are available at A.R.E. Cayce headquarters in Virginia Beach and an online member-only section along with background information, correspondence, and follow-up documentation. Historians now consider him the true founder and a principal source of the most characteristic beliefs of the American “New Age” Movement and modern Christian Mysticism.
28 Documented Events from Cayce’s Historical Biography
On June 18 1881, Edgar witnesses the horse accident which causes the death of his grandfather.
On March 16, 1886, had his first mystical vision of a bright and beautiful lady with wings. The Lady told him his prayers had been answered and offered him whatever he wanted most in life. His request was “to be helpful to others, especially to children when they are sick.”
On January 1, 1894, the Cayce family moves to Hopkinsville.
On March 14 1897, Cayce becomes engaged to Gertrude Evans.
On December 14, 1899, he returns home and forms a partnership with his father, Leslie Cayce, then insurance agent.
On March 24, 1900 a partial paralysis of the vocal cords makes him unable to speak beyond a whisper.
On March 31, 1900 gives his first psychic reading under hypnosis.
On August 3, 1902 returns to Hopkinsville regarding the medical situation of regarding a little girl called Aime Dietrich, a case which played an essential pivotal role in the future historical development of the Cayce readings.
On June 17, 1903 married Gertrude Evans.
On September 1, 1904 Cayce opens a photographic studio with business partner Frank Potter.
On December 23 1906, a fire destroys all the art work he has on consignment.
On March 16, 1907 first child born, son Hugh Lynn Cayce.
On April 22 1911, Cayce first validates the doctrine of reincarnation in reading 4841-1.
On May 17, 1911 second son Milton Porter dies.
On September 21, 1911 Cayce acquires his own studio Photographic in Selma (Alabama).
On October 10, 1922 the Birmingham Post-Herald quotes Cayce as saying that he had given 8,056 readings total.
On September 10 1923, hires permanent secretary, Gladys Davis who was then 18 years old. From that time on, she will be part of the Cayce family.
On September 15, 1923 this becomes another pivotal turning point in the Cayce readings, which played another essential pivotal role in the future historical development of the Cayce readings validating the metaphysical foundation of astrology and the concept of reincarnation.
On October 15, 1926 Cayce’s mother Carrie Cayce died.
On Sep 17 1944, gives his last reading, resulting in a total of 22,362 since 1900.
On January 3, 1945 Cayce dies from exhaustion and illness due to post stroke complications.
Rectified Horoscope for Edgar Cayce for
March 18, 1883 at 1:10 PM LMT Beverly, Kentucky.
Cayce’s General Characteristics
Earth and Water are Strong (F,E,A,W Scores = 1,18,0,30):
Cayce was a nurturer and a protector and prone to what has sometimes been referred to as the “Atlas Syndrome”, carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders. He took his responsibilities to others very seriously and often took on more than his share of their troubles as well. Though he appeared (and indeed often was)
rather passive, he possessed much quiet inner strength and the ability to flow with, endure, and emerge again and again from life’s inevitable adversities. He was apt to be surrounded by people who relied and depended upon him, and though he derived much satisfaction from providing, giving, and being needed, he could also let himself be drained emotionally and/or financially by taking care of other people and not caring sufficiently for himself.
Cayce had a very strong need for security and was a “safety-first” creature, disinclined to make sudden changes or to take new directions which involve risk and unpredictability. Any break from the past was very difficult for him and he needed a great deal of support when trying to make even healthy and positive changes in his life or habits.
Cayce was very retentive. He held on to (sometimes clung to) the people, places, and ways which he was familiar with. He also tended to both hold in and hold on to feelings, and he may have needed to learn to express and let go of old feelings and past conditioning.
Physically, he was apt to be hearty and substantial, with a tendency to be stout. Unless other astrological factors indicate otherwise, Cayce could also be downright lazy, especially when it comes to exercise. He instinctively chose comfort over challenge. (This is true in a broader sense as well, not only regarding physical exercise).
Cayce’s strengths included depth of feeling, patience, and generosity. The qualities he needed to cultivate included initiative, openness to change and new experience, and a stronger sense of self.
Fire is Weak (F,E,A,W Scores = 1,18,0,30):
Cayce was likely to be overly humble or unsure of himself and to look to others for inspiration, motivation, reinforcement, and approval. Tending to be somewhat passive, it would’ve been recommended that he learn how to take initiative and motivate himself.
A lack of warmth (either physically, emotionally, or both) may have been evident in him, which can show itself physically as a low energy level, paleness and lack of color in the skin, or a tendency to be easily chilled, and emotionally as a marked coolness or aloofness with little spiritedness, joyfulness, or enthusiasm for living. Eating warming, spicy foods, living in a warm, sunny place, and using fire in your daily life (lighting candles, using a wood stove or fireplace for heat) would’ve helped to balance him. Also, spending time with warm, cheerful, positive-minded people and developing a philosophy based on spiritual optimism could have stirred up his own zest of life.
Positively, Cayce was unlikely to be egocentric and have a capacity for great patience and peacefulness.
Air is Weak (F,E,A,W Scores = 1,18,0,30):
Cayce tended to lack the ability to analyze himself or his life in a detached, objective way. He felt and experienced but did not necessarily understand or reflect upon his experience, and thus found it hard to communicate or talk about it. Really taking in what someone else has to say could be hard for him – he did not readily adapt to new ideas or people, and as a result may have become inflexible or limit your experience of life. A broadening education and exposure to different cultures and types of people would have been very beneficial to him. Otherwise he would’ve been apt to be rigid and even prejudiced against those outside his own circle. (Arthritic conditions, poor flexibility, or poor circulation may reflect this).
Cayce also tended to distrust people who are free with words or to feel inferior to those who are more articulate and intellectual than himself. He learned much more readily by watching, doing, or apprenticing than by reading or by being told about something.
Cayce’s Approach Life and How He Appeared To Others
The following is a description of Cayce’s basic stance towards life, the way others saw him, the way he came across, the face he showed to the world.
Cayce appeared gentle and soft, and acted rather reserved with others until he knew them well and felt it was safe to be open with them. He had a strong need for emotional security and a sense of belonging, and were deeply attached to the past:
his heritage, roots, family, cherished friends, familiar places, etc. Making radical changes
or moves away from what is known and safe could be very painful and difficult for Cayce. He tended to cling and hold on to people, memories, possessions of personal or sentimental significance. Having a home, a safe haven, was very important to him.
Cayce approached life emotionally and subjectively and was sensitive to the emotional atmosphere, the subtle undercurrents of feeling in and around him. Instinctive and non-rational, he was often unable to give a clear, simple explanation for his actions. Something FELT right, or it didn’t.
Cayce’s emotions and personal loyalties tended to color his thoughts and opinions. He viewed life from a very personal perspective and often could not mentally detach himself from his own personal bias and prejudices. He was apt to be concerned primarily with how something affected him and those dear and close to him, rather than with the principle or the broader social implications. For instance, he may have been very patriotic and feel that whatever “my country” does is right without really knowing much about the other nation’s policies or point of view. Put simply: if it is good for me and mine, it is good. If it is not good for me and mine, it is no good.
He was tenaciously loyal, protective, and supportive of those he cared about, and had a very strong nurturing, motherly nature (regardless of your gender). Cayce empathized with others and intuitively sensed the feelings and needs of other people. Compassionate and sympathetic, he was easily moved by others’ pain, and was often the one others seek out when they need comfort, reassurance, or help.
Cayce’s moods fluctuated and changed frequently and he was sometimes open, sometimes withdrawn emotionally. He communicated non-verbally and appreciated a person who could pick up subtle cues and hints, rather than having to make everything explicit.
He never forgot either kindness or unkindness shown to him.
Sun Trine Asc.:
Cayce radiated a sense of pride, self-assurance, and a definite awareness of his own importance. It was hard for others to ignore him when he was present, and his personality may have overshadowed or dominated the scene.
The Inner Self: Cayce’s Real Motivation
Ascendant in Cancer and Sun in Pisces:
In addition to Cayce’s strong personal loyalties and the devotion he felt for his nearest and dearest, he had great compassion and sensitivity to people of all walks of life. He had a gift for understanding and appreciating a wide variety of art styles and life styles.
His good heart and innocent, unsuspecting attitude could have made him a victim of others’ greed.
Sun in Pisces:
At heart Cayce was very gentle, impressionable, and receptive -a dreamer. The world of his imagination, feelings, and intuition were as real to him as anything in the outer world, though he may have had trouble verbalizing or interpreting his inner experiences in a way others could understand. Mystical, artistic, musical, emotional and imaginative, Cayce had a rich inner life, though he may have seemed rather unobtrusive and quiet outwardly. He usually kept to himself.
Cayce had great sensitivity and empathy with others, and he often sensed things psychically or intuitively which proved to be correct. He was tolerant, forgiving, and nonjudgmental, accepting people unconditionally regardless of their flaws, mistakes, or outward appearance. He had deep compassion for the suffering of any fellow creature and often felt others’ pain as if it were his own. He sympathized with the needy, the disadvantaged, the misfits of society. He was capable of giving selflessly, living a life of devoted and compassionate service to others, as a healer, physician, social worker, or minister. However, he tended to give indiscriminately, to let others take advantage of his kindness, and to encourage the weak to remain so by becoming dependent upon him. He had little sense of boundaries, of limits, of knowing when to say “no”. Moderation and self-discipline were not his strong points.
Cayce was a lover and a peacemaker rather than a fighter, and he tried to avoid open conflict. He would likely patiently ignore or “tune out” problems and hope they will go away by themselves, rather than directly confronting them, and he tended to lack the positive fighting spirit that is sometimes necessary to overcome challenges. He was fluid, open, nonresistant, and somewhat passive. He did things in a subtle, often covert, manner.
His gifts also have lied in the realm of the creative, artistic, or musical, for he had a great sensitivity, inspiration, and limitless imagination. He likely responded very strongly to beauty and to love.
Cayce’s faults included a tendency to be lazy and negligent, and to wallow in self-pity rather than taking strong, definite action to change his life for the better. He also tended to become so detached from his immediate environment that he lived in a disorderly, chaotic sort of hodgepodge, though this probably bothered those around him more than it bothered him.
Sun in 9th house:
World travel, foreign cultures, and studies which expanded his intellectual horizons and broadened his understanding of the world are very attractive to him.
Cayce had a philosophical turn of mind and was concerned with seeking answers to the big questions of life or getting the overview of any situation. Abstract concepts and/or plans for the future occupied his mind much of the time.
Sun Square Jupiter:
Cayce had big aspirations and the desire to succeed in life in a grand way. He tended to exaggerate, to promise more than is possible, and to misjudge through being overly optimistic. However, he never lost his hopes for the future. Restlessness and discontent with responsibilities and limitations in life could be troublesome for him.
Sun Conjunct Mercury/MC:
He had a harmonious balance between your body, soul and spirit. He likely enjoyed intellectual challenges from others, but tended to form his own mental attitudes and philosophies of life. He was interested in studying human nature and matters of health.
Sun Conjunct Saturn/MC:
Cayce’s courage to face life seems to have been a bit on the low side and he was prone to worry a lot. Fear of his own inadequacies could distort his perspective and deplete his strength to go on in the direction he chose.
Sun Conjunct N. Node/MC:
Maintaining contact with his friends and associates was very important to Cayce and he kept in touch with them through their shared interests. His friends were likely to be very supportive to him in everything he did.
Cayce’s Mental Interests and Abilities
Mercury in Pisces:
Cayce was more of a poet than a rational scientist, for his mind did not function in a strictly logical, linear fashion. The language of music, art, or poetry was natural to him, and he was also able to think in highly abstract and symbolic terms. Translating his thoughts and impressions into concrete, everyday language may have been difficult for him at times and consequently he may have appeared less intelligent or at least less quick-witted and verbal than others. This would have been especially true of him as a child, and he probably daydreamed a good deal also. Cayce was intuitive and able to sense what others’ thoughts and feelings were, even before they said anything to him. He often formed an opinion about a person or situation without much factual knowledge of them, and his impressions were usually correct. Cayce could be somewhat absent-minded and he became so immersed in his own thoughts that he overlooked things in his immediate, tangible environment. He was extremely open-minded and believed that anything is possible. Intangible or spiritual forces seemed just as real to him as anything in the concrete world. His imagination and his sympathetic understanding of other people were two of his greatest gifts.
Mercury in 8th house:
The mysterious and the unknown fascinated him and he investigated the supernatural or something that is hidden or taboo. He needed to know what was going on behind the scenes. Cayce was also deeply curious about or astute about economic, political, or social power, big business, and the motives and powers behind the social facade.
Moon Sextile Mercury:
Cayce had talent for establishing rapport and communicating with people, great personnel skills, and he was adept at dealing with the public. He communicated concern, interest, and the ability to listen, which encouraged people to open up and confide in him even if they do not know him well. He created closeness with others by talking to them (even gossiping will do), or by writing intimate, personal letters. Women felt he understood them.
Mercury Conjunct Venus:
He appreciated aesthetics and had a fine sense of form, design, and beauty. He could have developed considerable technical skill as an artist, designer, craftsman, or creative writer. Cayce could have also sold objects of beauty – artistic products, cosmetics, jewelry, etc.
Cayce had the ability to please and harmonize well with others and tend to ameliorate relationships between people. His sense of humor, tact, and personal charm were of great benefit to him in any work with people on a one-to-one level.
Mercury aspects Venus and Mars:
He could also be very direct, even brutally frank, in the way he communicated.
Mercury aspects Moon and Mars:
Cayce’s desire to make a point sometimes overrided his receptivity to others’ views. He could be a good listener but often it was hard for him not to speak out.
Mercury Sextile Mars:
Cayce had a sharp tongue and ready wit, and enjoyed intellectual competition, problem solving, and demanding intellectual work. In a debate, he knew how to drive his point home. Cayce also possessed quick reflexes and dexterity and could be an excellent tennis or racquetball player. Any sport which involves a dynamic exchange between the players would have a suitable for him.
Mercury aspects Moon and Saturn:
Although he was perceptive and attuned to the personal, human side of any issue, he was also capable of considerable intellectual detachment and objectivity. Cayce combined the qualities of being subjective and intuitive with a rational, analytical approach. Cayce had an introverted frame of mind and he tended to dissect or deeply analyze his own and other people’s inner lives and experiences.
Mercury Conjunct Saturn:
His mind was serious and deep, and he would always offer an opinion on any matter until he had thoroughly considered and studied it. Cayce had excellent powers of concentration and enjoyed studying or thinking deeply in solitude. Cayce had an aptitude for research or doing mental work which requires precise, organized thinking, attention to detail, and a methodical approach. Cayce was conservative and something of a skeptic, and may have been narrow-minded and closed to new ideas, especially if there was no concrete proof or scientific verification of them. Socially, he was rather reserved, uncommunicative, and uncomfortable with light, frivolous conversation.
Mercury Conjunct Moon/Mars:
Cayce was impatient, a bit nervous and easily irritated. Although he was sensitive to criticism, he could also be insensitive to the feelings of others.
Mercury Conjunct Venus/N. Node:
Cayce had a strong desire to keep in contact with like-minded people and tended to discuss love problems with them. Cayce seemed to be especially drawn to children and young people and was always welcomed and appreciated by them.
Mercury Conjunct Jupiter/Pluto:
Cayce had the ability to influence others to his way of thinking and could have done well in a propaganda campaign. Cayce thought in big dimensions and had a gift for speaking. Cayce was interested in subjects that encompassed a larger view of the world.
Mercury Conjunct Saturn/N. Node:
Cayce formed his own conclusion about things and may have had some difficulty in exchanging his thoughts and ideas with others, although they regarded his ideas as having a good foundation. Most of his conversations tended to have a serious overtone.
Cayce’s Emotions: Moods, Feelings, Romance
Moon in Taurus:
Cayce was even-tempered and peace-loving, he was not easily ruffled or given to emotional displays. Cayce had a calming effect on more high-strung or volatile people, and an emotional steadiness that others find soothing. Though gentle and not easily provoked, he was tremendously stubborn and will resist any change which requires an emotional adjustment, such as changes in his home life or marriage.
Cayce sought security and loyalty in love, was extremely devoted to his loved ones, and provided a warm, nurturing atmosphere for them. However, he tended to cling and seek to keep others from changing.
A great deal of physical affection, closeness, and touching was essential to his well-being, and he had a tendency to overindulge in sensual comforts and pleasures. At times he substituted food for emotional comfort and love.
Moon in 10th house:
Cayce worked well with the public and had an instinct for what the public wanted and would respond to. Having a “nest” was not especially important to him, and he may have invested more of his emotional energy into his career or public life than in his private life. Providing for and caring for others in a professional capacity was very likely.
Moon Trine Mars:
Cayce was assertive and confront difficulties in a direct, no-nonsense sort of way. Cayce could not tolerate self-pity or passivity, and he could be rather brusque with others’ emotional problems. “Stop crying and DO something about it” might have been his motto.
Moon aspects Mars and Saturn:
Although he could get hot under the collar rather easily, he also had a certain degree of emotional self-control and composure which enabled him to rein in some of his more aggressive tendencies.
Moon Sextile Saturn:
Cayce was dedicated to the people he cared about and conscientious about meeting his responsibilities, especially to family. Family solidarity and cohesiveness were very important to him and so, therefore, were the traditions, rituals, and memories that keep the bonds strong.
Cayce was apt to do more than his fair share in the family, to go the extra mile, but this was satisfying rather than burdensome to him for the most part.
Venus in Pisces:
Tremendously soft-hearted and sympathetic, he gave very selflessly and devotedly to those he loved and often allowed others to become overly dependent upon him. More compassionate than passionate, he may have become romantically involved with someone because they needed love and he wanted to help them, rather than out of mutual pleasure or attraction.
Cayce was drawn to sensitive, imaginative, gentle souls -poets, musicians, dreamers – or to someone he felt he could have a deep spiritual relationship with. Cayce idealized love and had a very beautiful, romantic vision of what love could be.
Venus in 8th house:
Cayce craved very intense, deep, emotional relationships, and would even prefer a stormy, tumultuous relationship to one which is smooth but lacking vitality and passion. Cayce loved wholeheartedly and expected all-consuming, total devotion and attention from his partner. Casual, light relationships held no appeal for him.
Venus Conjunct Saturn:
Intimacy did not come easily to him and he may have appeared cold or unfeeling to others due to his emotional reserve and caution. Perhaps due to painful relationships and separations in his early life, he did not trust others very easily and it took a long time to take down all of his barriers and defenses. Cayce may have felt that he had few friends or people that really cared about him.
Venus Conjunct Mars/Pluto:
Cayce had a very erotic and sexual nature and often may have found himself drawn to another person by a kind of inner compulsion. Cayce could become quite obsessed by someone and had a tendency to control and manipulate his loved ones.
Cayce’s Drive and Ambition: How He Achieved His Goals
Mars in Capricorn:
Cayce was serious about his ambitions, and disciplined, dedicated, and tenacious in pursuing his objectives. His drive and energy was directed toward practical material accomplishment and achieving concrete results. Cayce also strived to be in a position of authority and social influence; he enjoyed being the person who is in command.
Cayce was hard-working and capable of foregoing immediate comfort in order to achieve his long-range goals. Cayce could easily become a workaholic and was very responsible and conscientious about doing a thorough job.
Realistic and pragmatic, he was an excellent strategist. Cayce attained success by formulating a conservative and workable plan and following through with it. Cayce was not a gambler when it came to attaining his goals; he depended on his own efforts and perseverance rather than good fortune. Cayce had a natural shrewdness and instinct for business or organizational management.
Mars in 6th house:
Cayce expected to work hard for anything he accomplish and he had no patience for people who didn’t pull their own weight. Work was a passion for he at times, and he pushed himself too hard. Cayce could be too demanding of the people he worked with also.
If his energy was not invested in a job or career, he could become a fanatic about his health, and he may have exercised or “worked out” vigorously and perhaps excessively.
Mars Sextile Saturn:
Conscientious, responsible, and serious about his work, he accomplished a great deal through his dedication. Cayce was the person who followed through, quietly sustained the effort, and kept on going in spite of tedium, setbacks, or dry spells. This was often the key to his success. However, he was humble about his accomplishments and contributions, and may thus not received the recognition or recompense he deserved.
Mars Square MC:
Cayce was intensely competitive, and may have engaged in furious battles of will, numerous conflicts, and possible public controversy, on his way to gaining his objectives. Cayce could be drawn to activities that were dangerous, in the line of fire, so to speak. Cayce put himself on the line. Anger or recklessness could be his downfall.
MC Conjunct Sun/Neptune:
Cayce was sensitive to everything around he and soaked up experiences like a sponge. Cayce needed to avoid becoming depressed when things did not go his way. Cayce also needed to overcome being somewhat timid and to build up his own self-image.
MC Opposition Jupiter/Asc.:
Cayce had a strong desire to acquire wealth and may had the good fortune to live in affluent circumstances. His pleasant and harmonious personality made him very popular, and he was like to have a large circle of friends.
Growth and Expansion: Areas That Cayce Enjoyed
Jupiter in Capricorn:
Cayce had an innate shrewdness, and the ability to develop a clear strategy and follow it carefully in order to reach his goals. Cayce also had a natural sense of order, structure, and self-discipline. Cayce was likely to excel, both because he was ambitious and because it is very important to he to do a professional job, no matter what field he was in, or how humble the task.
Jupiter in 6th house:
Cayce had a positive and constructive attitude toward work and what other people might consider drudgery. Cayce enjoyed helping people improve their lives, and the more service he rendered, the more benefits and rewards he found coming back to him. Promoting health in some manner was a very good avenue for him.
Jupiter Trine Neptune:
Cayce was very broad-minded and tolerant, and he had a rich, colorful imagination. Cayce did not struggle with life as much as most people; he was inclined to follow the path of least resistance.
Jupiter Opposition Moon/Uranus:
Cayce had good vision and foresight and his aspirations and objectives were likely to be aimed high. A certain element of luck seemed to surround him, and he was both lucky and successful in his enterprises.
Areas That Challenged Cayce Or Were Difficult For Him
Saturn in Pisces:
Cayce often had a sense of longing or homesickness for something he could not name or specify, and he may have had both a great attraction toward, and fear of, mysticism and parapsychology.
Overcoming feelings of fear, guilt, anxiety, loneliness, or over-sensitivity was an important task for him.
Saturn in 8th house:
Fear of the unknown, of change, and/or of death may have plagued him. Cayce strongly resisted changes and transitions rather than greeting them with curiosity or a spirit of adventure, which made them much harder for him.
On another level entirely, he was very careful about joining forces, and especially his material resources, with others. Cayce wanted to keep his own and other people’s property and assets very distinct.
Saturn Conjunct Mercury/Venus:
His attitude toward life was quite serious and he was very thorough. Cayce had the need to be by himself and think out everything very carefully before he take action. Cayce may have enjoyed doing some type of creative art work shaped from hard or heavy materials.
Saturn Conjunct Venus/N. Node:
Around others he was somewhat humble and shy and preferred to be by hismelf. Cayce tended to limit his contact with others and associate only with like-minded people. Cayce was inclined to be cool and reserved even toward those he loved.
Saturn Conjunct Jupiter/Pluto:
At times circumstances seemed to be pushing against him, and he may have had to withstand severe challenges. Cayce probably had to work harder than others in order to succeed, turning him hard and cold-hearted in his decisions because of it.
Unconcsious Patterns of Behavior Which Cayce Would Instinctively and Habitually Revert To When Under Stress
Node in Pisces:
Cultivating the qualities of empathy, gentleness, and compassion would have help counterbalance his deeply ingrained perfectionism and critical nature. When under stress, he was apt to try to rigorously analyze and to focus on what needed to be corrected or improved, and he could easily become problem-oriented, losing sight of the big picture and of what is working.
Node in 8th house:
Cayce was most likely to wrestle with these issues in relationships that were more than superficial or casual – in particular where he and another had merged emotionally, legally, or financially. Cayce would have seen these issues arise in close partnerships of any kind, especially when there was a mutual dependency on one another. Dealing with in-laws, inheritances, and legal matters involving joint custody, shared assets, and resources was also a part of this.
Node Conjunct Mercury:
“Work smarter, not harder” might have been a motto for him. Writing, teaching, recording, transcribing, dialoguing, negotiating, mediating, communicating, or facilitating clear communication would be significant activities for him to pursue.
Node Conjunct Venus:
Learning to give and receive affection, love, and pleasure would have been beneficial to Cayce. Learning to respond to, appreciate, and create beauty, art, harmonious surroundings and relationships. Being aware of aesthetics and doing things in a gracious, pleasing manner. Enjoying life, nurture friendships, and cultivating his ability to love and to receive love.
Node Conjunct Saturn:
Developing self-discipline and learn to handle responsibility better would have benefitted Cayce. He shouldered an inordinate amount of responsibility and burdens which at times limit his activities and opportunities in life. This was a maturing and ultimately strengthening process, however. Cayce was also likely to be given positions of tremendous responsibility, whether he really wanted such job or not, usually because he had made real effort and some sort of substantial contribution.
There may have been considerable obstacles in his path – more adversity than others seem to face – and his task was to learn to understand pressure and persevere.
Node Conjunct Moon/Mars:
Cayce cooperated with others in a vigorous and energetic way. His motto seems to have been “one for all and all for one”, and he felt strongly connected with others. In fact, he looked upon other people as necessary for a worthwhile life.
Originality and Imagination
Areas Where Cayce Was Creative, Unique, Unstable, or Compulsive
Uranus in 1st house:
Cayce was an unconventional and innovative person, and he was seen as a rebel, reformer, or highly unusual in his manners, appearance, or attitudes. Cayce enjoyed being unpredictable, and he did not conform to the standards that other people had set. Above all, he was an individual, and he did what he pleased regardless of customs and norms. His environment and life circumstances may have changed frequently and abruptly.
Neptune in 10th house:
Cayce was a very idealistic person, and he want to see his ideals, hopes, and dreams made concrete and real in the everyday world. Cayce was driven to put his ideals into action.
When young he may have been rather aimless or confused about his place in the world. In early adult life it is likely that he struggled to find ways to express his imagination, fantasies, and ideals in his career. Work that involved compassionate service (such as medicine or the ministry) may be his calling. If he lacked personal integrity and honesty, he quickly went to the opposite extreme and he could con others through dishonesty and trickery. Music, art, film-making or entertainment was also areas in which he was well-suited.
Pluto in 11th house:
Cayce may have had a deep aversion to groups, associations, clubs, or organizations of any kind. Any such group he became involved in is likely to be either for intense personal growth, change, and healing, or centered around social change and revising society in some manner.
Neptune Conjunct Pluto/MC:
Cayce was inclined to be very imaginative and likely to have occasional clairvoyant visions. But he should beware of strange pursuits that could lead him on the wrong path and eventual disappointments.
Pluto Conjunct Venus/Asc.:
Cayce seemed to had a powerful influence on everyone and others was strongly attracted to him. Cayce had a great need for attention or flattery and may have been a bit fanatic in love. His love experiences were likely to be very deep and intense.
Generational Influences: Cayce’s Age Group
The Subconscious and Emotional Drive of Cayce’s Age Group
Pluto in Taurus:
Cayce was part of a 30-year group of people who were highly motivated by practical concerns. There was a very strong psychological need to feel that there is a firm foundation and a solid basis for one’s life. There was an irresistible urge to make sure that the basics were taken care of and everything was built on a solid foundation. Consequently, his generation worked hard to improve the economy, ensure adequate food supplies, maintain and build roads and buildings, increase productivity, and develop other facilities that were essential foundations for a healthy, thriving economy.
There was a strong tendency to measure the value of something by its utilitarian value. For example, in education and research the emphasis was on ideas of practical value and there was little support for more purely theoretical research.
His generation was pragmatic and productive, and was driven by a need to build and DO things. This concern with practical affairs often becamesunbalanced, and a rampant materialism with little regard for humanitarian, ethical, and spiritual values often developed in his age group.
There was also a strong sensual craving in his age group, and a great deal of emphasis was placed on physically comfortable surroundings and good food. Romance was particularly important to his age group, and a great emphasis was also placed on the physical attractiveness of the opposite sex.
A small minority of members of his age group were likely to be uncomfortable with the practical and materialistic atmosphere of the times, and consequently became alienated and antagonistic towards the social norm.
Uranus Square Pluto:
Cayce was also born during a period that lasted approximately 7 years and was characterized by extreme restlessness and an impatient, dynamic attitude towards life. Cayce was part of a group of people who could be agent provocateur for the counter cultural forces that demanded change and progress in society. Cayce did not tolerate being restricted by authority , and his age group rebelled with force and anger against oppressive situations.
The Ideals and Illusions of His Age Group
Neptune in Taurus:
Cayce was part of a 14-year group of people that was very practical and down-to-earth in their religious philosophy and spiritual outlook. His age group incorporated its ideals and visions into everyday life, and investd more time and energy than other generations did in beautification projects, developing parks and recreation areas, and preserving beautiful or unique natural wildlife areas. Building construction was also done with careful attention to the aesthetic quality, and his generation found it difficult to understand how other age groups could erect buildings with so little aesthetic appeal.
His age group did not speculate a great deal about spiritual and metaphysical matters. Cayce was more involved in utilizing his imagination and intuition in practical, artistic ways rather than exploring metaphysical issues. Some of the art and music of his generation is among the world’s most beautiful.
What is New and Different in Cayce’s Age Group
Uranus in Leo:
Cayce was part of a 7-year group of people who were unusually self-willed, and inwardly self-assurred. Cayce was part of a group that defied authority and insisted on having its own way. Parents and school teachers found that it was extremely difficult to discipline his age group. Governments that were repressive to individual expression and freedom met a great deal of resistance from his age group, and he tended to rise up against any form of tyranny and oppressive rule.
Photographs used by permission courtesy of the Edgar Cayce Foundation – Virginia Beach, Virginia