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Presidential Election Predictions on “Mark The Rabbit Hole” Radio Show with Mark Metheny 2016 (PART 2)

Continued from Part 1
Transcribed from “Mark The Rabbit Hole” Radio Show with Mark Metheny.  Guest: William Stickevers (Airdate: October 6, 2016)
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Blackbox Career Graph for Donald Trump, August to November 2016

William Stickevers: Although the Blackbox forecast shows Trump having the edge going forward, I do think he needs to be [more] “Trumpzilla” the second time around he debates Hillary.  He really needs to be the guy he was when he defeated Cruz badly in the [former] debates.

The Blackbox forecast model is a system that can’t be modified, based on my or anyone else’s opinion.  It’s showing that Trump gains traction and as of late he has been pulling ahead.  He evened up [the race] by the 10th of September, and he will continue to gain traction.  It’s a slow but steady climb, but  he peaks the Sunday before Election Day, and then he drops slightly.

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Blackbox Career Graph for Hillary Clinton (8:02am), August to November 2016

However,  he’s way up there [and ahead of Hillary] if you compare the graphs to each other.  As you  can see, the closer we get into late October everything supports Trump.  So Trump’s support levels in terms of the personal astrological trends, the mundane astrological trends, the secular political trends, and the changing demographic trends are improving.  And the Blackbox forecast also implies pulling in other other mundane indicators that we’re going to see a record-breaking huge turnout this time.  And the mainstream media and  everyone else is talking about black voter turnout, and the minority voter turnout . But  let me tell you something else, white voters haven’t turned out in large numbers for a candidate since Ronald Reagan [back in 1980 and 1984] who won on the two greatest landslides of all time.  And that’s when the American economy was down in the dumps, as it is again today.  So I’m foreseeing a turnout as big or bigger than Reagan’s 1980 turnout  based all the mundane portents, including the Blackbox forecasting models, while most astrologers and everyone else in the mainstream media continue to  just underplay it,  saying essentially, “Oh well if there’s a big white turnout they’re going to go for Hillary.”  Nope.  No no no no. They’re going to turn out and for Trump.

There’s another graph on the Bernie voters in which they did a very extensive 6-day polling in many of the key battleground states on Bernie Sanders voters.  And I’m going to tell you something, and I posted this earlier today on Facebook —  you’ll be shocked — and  what it’s showing is that like 15-18% of voters in Nevada, in Colorado, in many of those key battleground states are voting for Trump at this point. Now, Mark,  I know you followed Bernie’s campaign closely,  and I know a lot of astrologers did, as we once had that discussion on what the Bernie voters are going to do come the General Election.  So this is some of the evidence coming in.

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For Florida, 18 percent of the Bernie voters — 18 percent are going to go for Trump!   And when they did these polls, these were people who were certain of who they are going to vote for, stating that they were 82 percent certain they were not going to change their mind. Fifteen percent of Bernie voters in Nevada are going to vote for Trump.  Ten percent of Bernie voters are going to vote for Trump in Rhode Island.  And seven percent of Arizona voters are going to vote for Trump.  Keep in mind these are people who not only supported Bernie but actually went out and voted for him.

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USC Dornsife LA Times Presidential Election Poll

Now, the kickback or the argument would be “Well, that’s less than 20 percent. Right?” But here’s the point: Trump right now is tied or slightly ahead in those states.  He is tied in Florida, and Nevada, and slightly ahead in Arizona.  And here’s the thing — Hillary is going to need every vote she can get.  Every “Bernie” one.  In fact, looking at this data Donald Trump is doing better than Jill Stein and Gary Johnson combined.

This supports my astrological theory that the Uranus-Pluto populist trend for emancipating and empowering the electorate [that Bernie also represented as well], and using whatever means necessary to do so is still alive and thriving in this campaign

So the question is, what does this data support?  This supports my
astrological theory that the Uranus-Pluto populist trend for emancipating and empowering the electorate [that Bernie also represented as well], and using whatever means necessary to do so is still alive and thriving in this campaign.  And even that disenfranchised group who knew that their candidate should’ve gotten the nomination is going to have its day at the polls.  So I’m telling you that the political blow-back is coming [in a big way] and many natal  astrologers may be really shocked at what we will soon witness [on November 8th].

With my Political Contest Horary  Astrological Dream Team group — where we do political mundane forecasting, and actually take all the poll numbers and correlate them with the  Vegas odds-makers, to make Political Contest Horary snapshot — working independently, we are coming to very similar results. I have an astrologer [working in our group] in London [Joyce Lambert]; she’s a great horary astrologer. And I have another outstanding astrologer working with me in Denver [Justine M. Rowinski]. We also have some additional astrologers on our team that just check out our work from time-to-time, and the conclusions that we’ve been coming up with are pretty much the same. What we’ve been projecting — it’s almost embarrassing to say — is that we project a Trump landslide.  And we’ve been seeing this trend developing since late July, and I have been going on to myself like “Oh, this can’t be true, oh no no no no no no, the election has to be a lot closer than this, this just cannot be true!”

But at this point, I do want to say this:  folks, I was on the Kepler College discussion panel as a  invited guest astrologer to speak on the on who would be the next president , and although everyone present made a great presentation, the one thing that I stated at the end of the show was that Pennsylvania will be the state to watch in the coming weeks ahead. Because if Hillary Clinton loses the state of Pennsylvania she cannot win.  She cannot win the election; it’s just impossible for her to win based [on the electoral college score card of getting 270 votes].

2016 US Presidential Election Electoral College Projection Map - William Stickevers and Political Contest Horary Dream Team
2016 US Presidential Election Electoral College Projection Map – from William Stickevers and Political Contest Horary Dream Team, as of October 6, 2016

So here’s the current Electoral Collage  projection map.   Now this map,  is not just something I came up with on a whim. This map projection is a result of my Political Forecasting Horary team’s judgment calls and work.  If you look at my website you’ll see we’ve been showing different permutations and changes of the map, but it hasn’t changed all that much since June. In fact, we’ve been very conservative.  Where we felt that it was to close to call, we always gave it to Hillary.  So we’ve been giving Hillary the edge the entire time, even though technically it’s something you shouldn’t do in forecasting.  But in the too-close-to-call horary judgments we’ve always handed it to Hillary.  And even with doing that,  we’re STILL seeing Trump decisively winning from an electoral college standpoint.

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And for those of you who doubt everything I’m saying, that just can’t be so, and in a way  I don’t blame you.  But realize, and Mark can attest for this and it’s on my website, that this method of who would win and lose all 98 primary races is 87 percent.  So in regards to the General Election, we’re either 87 percent right on this, or we’re 87 percent wrong.  So I really took the Political Contest Horary Dream Team to task, and I said we really need to figure out what’s going on in Pennsylvania. We did four horary snapshots based on different polls and changes in Vegas Oddmakers, and the result of every horary snapshot of the Pennsylvania race augured better and better chances for Trump.

But not only that. Let me explain something here. I really wanted to hold back and I didn’t want to say anything this early.  In fact, I had great trepidation last night about stating my forecast today.  I was thinking, “Should I really  push this Electoral College map out there”, ’cause I know I’m going to get a lot of heat from astrologers the world over saying “Ah, you’re going to be wrong, you’re going to be really wrong on this one.”  So I’m really sticking my neck out here.  But let me give you some other evidence why I think we might be right.

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It’s very important to realize there are certain key counties, there’s certain what they call battleground counties.  These counties are bellweather counties in the sense that they have determine how their respective state votes, and what percentage they get reflects the outcome within one percent of accuracy. For example, we have in the state of Pennsylvania two counties in particular that fall within that example.  Axiom Strategies actually looks at the battleground counties and does polling snapshots every month just for those particular counties in each Battleground State.

So for the state of Pennsylvania, which is a must-win state for Hillary, we have Luzerne County and Northampton County.  And Northampton County is so accurate in determining the president in particular — both Luzerne but Northampton in particular is always within one percent of accuracy historically for the past four elections.  It’s actually 0.17 percent accurate on all the elections since 2000.  And right now Trump is ahead by eight points.  That’s implying that we’re going to see a landslide in November.

By the way, anything five points or over in this state is considered a landslide.  So we may see a landslide in Pennsylvania, and I felt much better about saying Hillary is going to lose Pennsylvania after looking at this data. And again, if she loses Pennsylvania it doesn’t matter about the rest of the states when you do the Electoral College math.  Pennsylvania  is a must-win state; it’s her political firewall.  And Trump is there a lot. When she’s taking time off, he goes to Nevada, Pennsylvania, Colorado in a single day. The following day he goes to Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Florida, then back to Pennsylvania.  He’s in Pennsylvania all the time.  And the campaign there has now hit critical mass.  So not only is he ahead eight points in Northampton County, he’s also ahead in Luzerne County which has a phenomenal track record as well, within 0.78 or 0.5 percent of accuracy — meaning almost perfect accuracy in the past four elections since 2000.  And Trump is ahead as of today by seven points.

Those two counties is a really telling thing.  So right now, the math, the logic, the astrology is all leaning and leading towards a decisive Trump victory come November.

Mark Metheny: Well, those are amazing numbers because, I mean, eight percent is quite a difference there.  I’m looking through the map here.  So what I’m hearing you say is that it looks like it could actually be a blowout across the board in Trump’s favor, but you’re being cautious in going that far.  Because all the tell-tale signs and numbers are starting to point that direction.

William:  Correct.  In fact, one of the things I’m really trying to do, and I remind my students of this — I try and live by what I say — is not to “nowcast” but to forecast.  So I’m not saying, hey, well, based on today’s polls and what I saw today I think it’s going to be a tight race and Hillary will squeak by because blah, blah, blah. No no no no no!  I’m using all the different tools, looking at all the forward bellweather states and bellweather counties, and they are indicating a decisive Trump victory.  And  another thing I want to mention that really sort of puts the nail in the coffin is, do you know the three states that if a candidates is  ahead in [the composite polling] there’s over a 90 percent chance they will likely win?  Forget the counties.  There’s three states, historically speaking, since 1896 that will make you the next president of the United States.  Do you know which ones those are?

Mark:  Is it Ohio, Pennsylvania, and, is Nevada the third one?  Or Florida.

William:  Well, that’s pretty close.  It’s actually Ohio, Missouri, and Nevada.  All three have an outstanding track record.  Ohio and Nevada have a 92-93 percent accuracy on picking the winner.  So if you were winning in those two states, you have around a  80 percent chance of winning.  But if you include Missouri and Ohio and Nevada, you’re now well over a 90 percent chance.  So a week ago Trump was ahead in Nevada, decisively.  And then CNN claims that he lost some support, but I’m not buying into that.  Trump is significantly ahead in Missouri.  He’s slightly ahead in Ohio.  In fact, Hillary is now denying that she’s shutting down her Ohio operation, and her campaign team stated she realizes she needs to put her energy into protecting her firewall in Pennsylvania.  So, Nevada is still very fluid, but the trends are showing well for Trump.  But just the fact that we have Missouri and Ohio in Trump’s camp puts you into the 75 percent probability, close to 80 percent probability of winning the election. Which, by the way, is pretty close to what the S&P 500 projection is: 86 percent.

Highest percentage for varying lengths of time for presidential elections, 1896–2012

  • Nevada – 1 miss (1976) from 1912 on (96.2%, slightly “too Republican“).

  • Ohio – 2 misses (1944, 1960) from 1896 on (93.3%, slightly “too Republican”). Currently the longest perfect streak.

  • New Mexico – 2 misses (1976, 2000) from 1912 on (92.3%, “neutral”). The state of New Mexico voted for the winner of the popular vote in 2000.

I could list of the statistics, and I’ll post something there for your group, but  I don’t want to get too deep into that because that it can get boring, and it’s beyond the scope of astrological forecasting.  But for those naysayers who’re saying that it just can’t be so, trust me — the evidence is compelling that those three bellweather states are very telling. Especially in terms of political forecasters who don’t use astrology, they’re looking at those states and the bellweather counties of  those states. And again, they’re all indicating Trump.

So, I think the astrologers need to really reframe their position on the election,  and stop embarrassing themselves by saying “Hillary wins no matter what….Hillary wins no matter what!”  It’s going to look foolish enough for the media, but the astrologers have enough going against them.

Mark:  So I just just want to put in perspective, a little bit of what I do and how it explains the stuff you have to deal with.

So, one of my other jobs is that I’ve worked in sports statistics since spring of 1985, so 31 years.  So I’ve worked on TV and radio sporting events for 31 years, and I’ve started applying that to astrology, so I have a trunk here full of charts of all the pro and a lot of the college sports teams, and I look at sporting events and everything.  So just so that people understand how difficult this is, I would just sit for, not necessarily hours, but I will sit for a long time just looking at the charts for two teams, and you almost have to fight what your preconceived notion is of what you think the outcome will be.  So when you’re looking at a horary, or an event, or an election, a sporting event, you almost end up — like what you’re saying, can this be real?  Because this is not what the media is telling me and what other people are telling me, this should not be so.  So, what you do with this is very difficult because you can get into these battles within your own head, if you get something very different than what my rational left brain is being told should happen.

So I just want people to know the kind of stuff that you have to go through to come up with a prediction or a forecast that is not what the mainstream would expect.  So that is a very difficult position for you to be in, so I feel your pain. (laughs)  And I just want everyone else to know how difficult it is.  And when you look the chart for a sporting event and a chart for the two teams, and I can just sit and split hairs and minutiae for days over stuff.  And so, for something to show up this obvious and contrary to what the status quo believes the outcome is going to be, that’s kudos to you and your group on that work.

William: Thank you very much, Mark.  I mean, I’ll tell you the truth. Last night I was up late and I just said, I don’t know what I’m going to say on this show, because the last thing I watched on TV was CNN saying, oh, people in Nevada who were going to vote for Trump have actually changed their mind.  They interviewed some people who said, “I saw the debate and that was such a disaster that I definitely have to vote for Hillary now.”  And first I was thinking, well, first of all, the debate wasn’t a disaster.  And it wasn’t that bad to turn off every voter in Nevada to turn the polls the other way around.  That’s number one.  Number two, I find it interesting that all of a sudden they’re saying, a week ago they were saying the race is tight, and now they’re saying Hillary is favored to win. It’s very clear to me what they are doing.  I hear these statements on NPR radio that the second debate may actually put the nail in the coffin for Trump.  I hear these things and you have to ignore it, and as an astrologer and forecaster you have to look at the data and be true to it.  And, Mark, I know what you went through with Bernie race, where you start having doubt,  and you start thinking to yourself, are you the only guy seeing this?  So, yeah,  you know, I could be wrong, but I’m being true to the data, I’m being true to the astrology, and I’m being true to the secular trends.  And from what I’m seeing this is not going to be a squeaker election, where its  going to come down to Ohio,  down to some obscure county where 4,000 votes determine the outcome like it did with Kerry and Bush in 2004.  No, I don’t see that happening here in 2016.  That’s not what I’m seeing.  I’m seeing more of a 1980 replay, if I’m right.  Or maybe not to that extent but something much closer to George Bush vs. Michael Dukakis.  And, folks, remember, at this time in October back in 1988, Michael Dukakis was 17 points ahead of George Bush, and George Bush won by a landslide.

Mark:  Was that because — that was one of the famous debates where Dukakis kind of got put in his place, wasn’t it.

William:  Yes, in fact Dukakis won the first debate.  You’ve got to remember, too, Dukakis was ahead by 10-17 points, depending on who was polling, from July all the way until late October.

Mark:  Right.

William:  So there was a lapse.  And what you’re seeing now is Trump surging slowly. It’s a slow but steady surge.  Hillary’s numbers are slowly declining, not collapsing totally but declining, and they’re at this parody point now.  Trump has much more upward to go.  We haven’t seen his numbers top.  And classically, in every race to date, he’s a great finisher.  He’s behind or second place, and then BOOM at the very end he pulls ahead and wins.  He’s like the “dark horse” Secretariat.

Mark:  Right, right.

William:  Right?  He’s very much like a dark horse.  A dark horse always stays in the back, right (laughs) — people are changing their bets by the third turn, and BOOM — he not only wins but he breaks records.  And Trump has proven himself to be a great finisher at the very end of election battles.  He doesn’t always poll the best and then boom — he comes out ahead, and he comes out breaking records.

And remember, folks — more people voted for Trump than voted for any GOP candidate, broke the records by 60 percent.  Fewer people voted for Hillary than voted for Obama in the 2008 primary, when the population was smaller.  Less people, significantly less people voted for Hillary.  And so we’re being told to believe — and even though people — when it came to the primaries — people voted less for Hillary than Obama, and Trump got far more than Romney did, far more than Reagan, and far more than anyone did, and blew out all the numbers.  We are led to believe that Hillary Clinton is still as strong as a candidate or stronger than Barack Obama, and Donald Trump is a weaker candidate than Mitt Romney.  That is absolutely absurd.  There is no data to support that.  And that is what the media, and the astrologers who basically parrot what they say, by and large, want all of us to believe.

Mark:  Well, the proof will be in the pudding, they say, but there’s — I think it is obvious to anyone who is honest with themselves will have to say it’s obvious that there is a disconnect between what we are seeing in the polls and what we are seeing around us vs. what the media is telling us is going one.  There’s definitely something not jiving there.

William:  Right.  And to tell you the truth — and I’m look at the polling data as well, you know that.  I don’t just look at the astrology.  I look at all the trends, I look at all the economics.  In order for Hillary to win the way the astrologers are predicting and the political pundits who’ve been wrong all along — remember, all the political pundits were wrong all along on almost every race.  They would’ve lost their shirts if they bet money.  And yet for Hillary to win the way they’re saying, we would need to see a surge happening about now.

Now that may happen, BUT that’s not what I’m seeing.  We would need to start seeing a significant, decisive, dramatic, watershed set of events occur in her favor that galvanize her campaign and have her surge in the polls, especially in the key battleground states.   And right now folks, she is losing momentum in the key battleground states. That much is clear.  She’s not campaigning at the speed  and intensity she needs to.  I mean, Trump hits so many places, he fills the place — 30,0000, 50,000, or 100,000 people at a time. The numbers are huge.  They’re bigger than Barack Obama’s was in 2008 — something else the media doesn’t want you to know.  And that is something else the astrologers don’t want to talk about.

So again, the evidence is overwhelming, and yet, many people want to pretend, you know, keep calm and pretend everything is normal.  Pretend and extend that this election is another version of  2008 for the Democrats all over again. That’s what the media pundits and a majority of the astrologers want you to believe about Hillary, all over again.

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Mark:  Right, whereas the numbers are showing that there’s something very different going on than what the media is trying to assure us is going on, which leads the conspiratorial side of my brain — which is actually both sides — to say, okay, is there something up their sleeve?  Are they just trying, do they have something in the works and they just have to keep selling it so people don’t question the results.

William: Well, that’s a great question.  I actually think if we see a Hillary landslide and I have to be rebuked by the 50,000 astrologers assaulting my blog every month, worldwide, it would certainly indicate to me that some other  X factor is involved in the outcome of the election.  Stating that, I do believe the American oligarchy is extremely desperate, because you have to remember one thing — in order for global financial reset to occur — which is basically pulling out and replacing  the U.S.  petro-dollar and the U.S. Treasury bonds out of virtually every bank throughout the world — in order for them to be swapped by the International Monetary Fund SDR — it’s called Special Drawing Rights, world money . Now,  in order for that to occur, a debt jubilee would have to be declared, which needs to actually happen.  Because all the debt worldwide is unpayable, it’s stagnating, and destroying the currencies.

Also, they can’t keep zero percent interest rates going. And they, the oligarchy, can’t keep negative interest rates going; they know the financial system is going to come to a collapse.  So the only thing they can do is pull the dollar off as a world reserve currency and swap everything out.  For all of that to occur, they need to have certain trade agreements in place.  All these trade agreements that have been in place, and the new ones that are even more in depth that basically take away all national oversight and power away from countries, allow for a new global financial system to take over, not only at the international level but the national level, at the municipal level and at the local level, worldwide.  One currency for all countries.  And in order for that to all work and happen you need to have to TPP in place.  So I believe Obama is going to push that through.  And if he doesn’t achieve it, Hillary Clinton must and will achieve TPP passage.  Once we have a reset of — once those trade pacts are pushed through, then they’re going to invoke global financial reset shortly thereafter, within a very short amount of time.  So they’re basically going to implode the economies, and in doing so they are going to recapitalize the Central Banks with SDRs, and the dollar and all the other types of currencies will be, over a period of 5-10 year period, be completely discontinued.  Then, once they have that in place, they can have global governance.  And that’s really what they really have planned, and that is a one world oligarchical infrastructure in place. But first you need to do the economics.  Once you have the economics in place, things like nationalism and things like legal boundaries and state boundaries, or national boundaries really don’t mean that much.  And then you go from unilateral to a multilateral defense system, which is sort of what NATO is, even though it is still U.S.-dominated.

Also, they want to get rid of U.S. power, they want to marginalize U.S. military power as much as possible.  They want it to be on parody with China and Russia, and no longer to be the dominant country in the world.  And for all that to happen, thing things I have just described have to take place.

This stuff goes beyond the scope of what we’re talking about today, and I hope we will do a show maybe in the near future, but the key thing to remember is that the oligarchy needs to get Hillary Clinton in office.  She must win at all costs.  Without her winning, the oligarchy’s plan and policies that have been operative and put into place and rapidly being rolled out since 1992, will be completely disrupted by Trumpzilla, because he’s not going to play ball with them.  He’s even threatened to audit  the Federal Reserve, stating something like, “and if  I see that they are in the red, I am defaulting on the debt, I am going to default on the treasuries, on the bonds.” There’s going to be a jubilee, that’s  basically what he is saying. Along with “well, you may get a pension but it’ll be only 50 cents on the dollar.  I don’t care because I’m going to do what it takes to fix the economy and you can’t have an economy that is based on a debt-driven market model.”  He just may do it.  Everyone knows it, and no one wants to talk about it.  He knows it’s either going to happen organically when the debt implosion occurs, OR he’s going to push the economic red button and do it the way you would in a controlled demolition, like a Chapter 13 model, for all intents and purposes, on a national level.  And if that happens, China, Russia, Europe, and everyone who has our treasuries as a core asset will be screwed. But he is Trumpzilla and he doesn’t care.

So the oligarchy’s plan for a one world, unified — where the SWF, the BIS, Bank of International Settlements, is the underpinning central bank that basically carries out the agenda of the IMF, where you have a one world currency system.  That just can’t happen if you have a Trumpzilla occupying the White House.

Mark:  Agreed.  And that’s…  I mean, I guess we can really only guess beyond that what would happen.  We’re beyond at odds with Russia over the Syria thing.  You know, if he pulls the plug on… (exhale)

William:  (laughs)

Mark:  (laughs)  I don’t even, I don’t even know what this would all look like, to be honest with you after that.  Almost too many moving parts for my brain, I think.  (laughs)

William:  Well, I want to say one thing.  Everyone says this is what Trump is going to do if he becomes President., implying he going to be the worst president in the world.  Well, I don’t know if he’s going to be the worst president in the history of the world.  But I do know one thing. After looking up Trump’s personal biography and his natal chart (I’m sure you have Mark — I know Theodore White has) that  whatever he does, if he gets in office, it will be big.  It will be dramatic.  It will be rolled out fast, and be implemented unconventionally.  The implementation or the legal means by which whatever happens in his term in office will be unprecedented.  And he always seems to do things in a dramatic, big, and unconventional style in his biography with his love life, with women – in regards to his wives, with business, with money, and his social life.  He takes massive risk by rolling the dice, and he’s all in with all his money.  And that’s what he’s going to do  and what we are going to see if he gets into office.  He’s going to see things as they are now, roll up his sleeves, whatever he doesn’t like he’s going to throw his atomic political breath on it and everybody better get  out the way. We have never seen a president speak and say, “This is what’s going on; I’m going to tell you stuff you shouldn’t know but now you’re going to know.  And you’re going to understand why I’m going to push that button.  And when I do, everyone’s going to feel the pain.  But once the pain is over, then things will reset to normal.  Then we’ll have real price discovery.  Then housing prices will go back to normal.  Then people will be able to see their wages go up.  We’ll see a country that begins to export, and industries that decide to keep whatever manufacturing here that’s left, stay here and taxes that don’t stay in Ireland.”  And those types of things.

So you know, no one wants to push that button.  “Hope and Change” is gone and a thing of the past.  Now it’s Trumpzilla’s turn, and we’re Tokyo.  And he’s going to do what Godzilla does to anything in his way and no one can stop him.  And let me tell you something, he’s very convincing, not only to the electorate, he’s very convincing with business people.  He’s very convincing with women, he’s very convincing with men.  He’s got charisma.  I’m not saying Congress isn’t going to balk.  I’m not saying they’re not going to give him a fight.  But he’s not going to be a guy who just walks away, stays locked up in the White House and lets somebody else handle it.  This is going to be a guy the astrologers are going to be pulling their hair out over because they’re going to predict “this is what I think Trump will do” — and NO, he’s not going to do that.  Not at all.  Whatever the astrologers write about Trump, Mark, whatever they write — I’m just going to watch for a while — they’re going to be flat out wrong! Like they’ve been wrong so far about him so far.  If he gets elected, they will be wrong.  Because they couldn’t even call his nomination correctly, right out from the gate from the beginning.  They’re assuming he’s just going to be another version of whatever we’ve had in the past.  And what  I’m saying here is all bets are off for everybody, once and if Trumpzilla gets in office.

Mark:  I agree.  A lot of people when they talk about Trump, they talk about that Mars in Leo and everything, and to me, the first thing I see is that Uranus conjunct his North Node, and Moon, I believe it is.  I mean, to me that’s the true nature there of what he is and what we’re going to get, is that Uranian energy.  And that’s why they haven’t been able to shut him down, and why Hillary and others don’t know how to handle him.  Because it’s Uranus.  He is Uranus.  Period.  I don’t even care about that Mars in Leo.   He is Uranus.  He is chaos.

William:  Yeah, Trumpzilla is chaos with a secret hidden agenda. An enigma wrapped in a riddle. And everything you say about him, once you think you have him figured him out, will just make you a fool of yourself because, he going prove you [the astrologers] wrong again.

Now, I’m not saying this guy is genius.  I’m just saying that he is a wild card and he’s got a lot of talent.  Maybe it’s misdirected at times, but the guy has got a lot of talent and a lot of charisma.  What he just pulled off in getting the nomination is revolutionary in and of itself. The fact that he was behind the huge voter turnout, and even if he doesn’t win, it’s going to be revolutionary in and of itself.

There’s no going back to the Grand Old Party anymore; there is no Republican party now. The Bush dynasty is over.  And let me tell you something, I think he’s even destroyed the Democrats, because he’s really exposed them for what they are.  In fact, many, many of the Democrats I know are not voting for Hillary, okay, or they’re stepping out this time around.  So again, we are in the Twilight Zone. And we have never seen a movie or episode like this.

Mark, you’ve got to realize, I’ve been keeping quiet, and just posting my stuff, and having to go astrology meetings playing it low.  You know I’m the treasurer on the Board for San Francisco NCGR and you know how many speakers keep coming there  to lecture there telling me Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, as if Trump doesn’t even exist.  Here is the most common two sentences from most of the astrologers discussing the election in the chapter: “Can you believe this guy?  Let’s not even talk about him and discuss Hillary’s chart.”  I keep hearing this again, over and over and over.  And from my New York City friends, it’s almost the same! Now, that way I’m speaking here today may be a little bit over the top for some of your listeners, but that is only because this has been pent up energy where I’m seeing something so radically different.

Mark:  And nobody even wants to look at the numbers.  They just want to talk about what their preconceived notions are, which I’ve got to say I was completely wrong on — if we look back to January or February, I was completely wrong on how this was all going to go.  I figured the Republicans would try to throw somebody else in at the convention, especially when they all came out, and when your whole party is against you as it was at one point, and then he still — the thing that’s hilarious to me, all the people that are throwing certain stereotypes at him and at his followers, they so do not see what is driving this phenomena, and they’re feeding into it, they’re building it.  And they don’t see that the more that they do that, they’re actually raising the chances that he will win, and they’re actually feeding the fire.  So, yeah, I don’t have a horse in the race between those two, but it’s a completely fascinating psychological study for me.  Because at least at some point I had to say I am wrong; what I thought was going to happen is not playing out that way.

William:  Mark, but you were almost right, and I have to hand it to you — you were one of the people who saw the populist revolution occurring, and you knew it was either going to be Trump or Bernie.  So it was going to be Bernie vs. Bush or Cruz, or Trump vs. Hillary.  The race we all wanted to see was populist vs. populist, and that never happens, that fight never happens.  It’s a fantasy fight.

Mark:  Right.  (laughs)

William:  So we don’t see — I’m trying to think of a good Rocky fight — we don’t see the Russian Ivan Drago fight Clubber Lang.

Mark:  Right. (laughs)

William:  They have to fight an established champion.  I mean, that would be a great fight, but (laughs).  And that would’ve a great election if we had [Bernie and Trump] going at it, and believe me, it would be a much closer election — if I’m right.  It would’ve been a much closer election.  So, we’ll see what happens.  I do understand that basically what I said is outside the comfort zone of many people listening to this program, and I’m generally —  I do this quite a bit.  I looked at Scotland, and people were saying, William, you’re going to be wrong about Scotland, and I called it right.  So, it’s not like I do this once in a while.

I’ll tell you one Political Contest Horary election that I’m really proud of.  There was a midterm election, there was an election between, the senatorial election in North Carolina, Kay Hagan.  She was way ahead, and the mainstream media predicted she’s going to win. I did the horary snapshot based on the polls and oddsmakers for the North Caronlina race and I  predicted that she’s not going to win.  It was clear that it would become a decisive win for her GOP opponent. And I was right, and many people asked, wow, how’d you call it?  Because I know this technique that I’ve been using since 2007 — and I keep tweaking and improving it — I know I can make valid calls, with 80 percent accuracy within 1.9 points within the margin of error in the polls.  And I may be wrong about some of the states, in the forthcoming election, but I’m pretty confident now that Hillary is going to lose Pennsylvania at this point.  And I know some people are going to call me and say, oh, no, that’s not what I’m hearing.  But, Mark, I have clients all over the country — as you know, I do a lot of forecasting — and I ask them would you tell me who you voted for in 2008?  And almost all say they voted for Obama.  Then I ask them if they voted  for Obama a second time, and there is a close split between Obama and Romney. But then I ask all my clients, especially the ones from your state, Pennsylvania, Arizona, and they’ll say, oh, no Trump.  They’re not thinking of voting for Hillary.  They’re voting for Trump, even though many voted for Obama twice.  My New York friends say, oh, I’m voting for Trump.  So, it’s my own unofficial poll from about 80 people from all different states who voted for Obama once or twice, but now,  are telling me they are voting for Trump.  Actually, two people said they are voting for Hillary.  So what does that tell you?

Mark:  That there is a monumental shift that is not being captured by the media or most of the mainstream astrologers or media of any sort.  They still haven’t figured out what’s going on, after telling us what’s going to happen for the last year.

William:  You know, I was on the phone with my mother today; she lives in Florida.  And that’s a must-win state for Trump.  And I asked her — she voted for Obama the first time, and I think she voted for Romney the second time, and some of her friends were split.  She sees what’s going on there with the campaign.  And I said to her this morning, you know, I hear Hillary’s numbers are improving in Florida, and she said,  “I don’t know why the news is saying that because  four years ago I saw Obama and Romney here, but now all I see is Trump.”  You don’t even see anything happening there with Hillary.  And she’s near the Orlando area.  And she says that everyone in her retirement village are all for Trump.  So I just heard this this morning, so I’m wondering, so where’s this Hillary surge in Florida coming from?  And she works at Walmart, she doesn’t need to work there, she just does it to keep busy, she has a very good pension.  But she talks to people, and she sees people in Walmart and she said they’re all in Trump shirts, Trump hats, etc. She says it’s like the election is going to be tomorrow.  So, that’s  Florida.  And I thought that was interesting.

Mark:  Right.  I’m seeing that here in Ohio too.  Probably three weeks ago or a month ago, we were saying, man, there’s just so few political signs.  I’ve never seen this few political signs.  Because usually once you get to after the conventions, that’s when they start going up, and there’s hardly been any.  And then in the last three weeks, there were Trump signs just going up everywhere.  We saw a dude with a big decked out Ford truck, he had it painted Trump and everything, and it’s like, counting yard signs and bumper stickers and stuff is not very scientific but looking at that, it’s like ten to one.  And counting yard signs and stuff, Gary Johnson is second.  (laughs)

William: (laughs)

Mark:  So, I don’t know, maybe Clinton gets people at the end or they don’t want to deal with the harassment or whatever they feel they would get.  I don’t know.  But just looking at yard signs and bumper stickers it is not split evenly at all.

William:  Yes, and you know, the fact that Hillary’s campaign is considering pulling out her entire Ohio operation is telling.  She’s denying it but this is what we’re seeing all over the internet now.  People are saying, yeah, she has to make a decision to pull out, they can’t keep sustaining the operations because they’re losing traction in other states.  They’re losing in the Rust Belt, and her campaign just can’t figure it out.  Because there’s massive underemployment and gigantic unemployment, and things have gotten worse in almost eight years since Obama’s taken office.  Not that it’s totally his fault, but the fact that his stewardship of the economy is no better, or as worse  G.W. Bush’s economy?  No, let’s not talk about that; that cannot be the case, right? (Laughs)

Mark:  Right.  Right.  (sigh)  I have to say, (laughs) for me, this has been by far the most fun and fascinating election, I think, of my lifetime.  (laughs)  I mean, maybe it’s because I don’t have too much of a dog in this fight, but I just mean, the people-watching and they psychology study has just been amazing.  (laughs)

William:  Absolutely.  It’s telling us a lot.  When you listen, and you see what’s going on, you realize that people are really desperate.  And I’m not saying that Donald Trump has the answer, because we don’t even know what that answer is.

Mark:  Right.

William:  We know that what he’s saying has nothing to do with what he’s really going to do.  Everybody knows that, too.  People say, yeah, yeah, yeah, he’s not really going to be build a wall; he’s just going to make sure the illegal immigration gets under control.  I mean, people say that.  People know that.

Mark:  Right.

William:  I mean, nobody cares about the fact that he doesn’t have to pay taxes because the tax law says if you take a loss, you don’t need to pay taxes until you’ve recovered from your loss.  I mean, that’s the tax law.  If you don’t comply with the tax law, you get audited, you get shut down.  The IRS does that faster than any agency.  People are not going to vote on that.  Let me tell you something, folks — putting the astrology aside for a moment — Hillary Clinton is desperate.  She needs to stop the Trump revolution in its tracks and she needs to make Trump unacceptable as an agent of change.  She needs to get it down in these next two debates that Trump is unacceptable as an agent of change, which she wasn’t able to establish in the first one.

She just sort of neutralized him, but she didn’t change, she lost the message on that.  Secondly, she needs — along with her campaign and the media along with the oligarchy all working in concert,  to keep people distracted from their determination to rid incompetent politicians who are ruling outside the [constitutional] rule of law, composed of a corrupt ruling class, a political class if you will,  that controls the capital and business infrastructure of the country.  So basically, they need to keep people distracted.

And the third thing is that they have to keep people distracted from the betrayal that the government, especially the Obama Administration, of what has happened to the American working class. They have to distract voters from the continued acceleration of the outsourcing and de-industrialization of the country.  To distract us from the loss of economic independence that America achieved by 1900, becoming the greatest economic superpower in the world.  By 1900.  You realize that.  From the Civil War to 1900, America out-produced all the countries in the world combined by 1900.  And by 1945 was the world’s greatest military, technological, industrial, cultural, agricultural superpower of all time.  And what is it today? A shadow of its former self!  So they have to keep people distracted and they have to keep this “extend and pretend” economic and financial policies going.

And let me tell you something else, folks, it is not the stock market. It’s the bond market, which is 17 times bigger than the stock market, which is going to implode.  Everyone keeps talking about this.  Why do you think Deutsche Bank is insolvent?  Why do you think Credit Suisse actually said today, oh, we’re insolvent too.  And Barclay’s said, we’re insolvent.  Because it has to do with all this leveraged debt on the bonds, and just injecting liquidity, and keeping interest rates at zero and or at negative percent level.

Keep in mind that you can’t have bonds continue when you have negative or zero percent interest rates.  And when that blows up, it’s the end of the banking system.  It’s the end of governance over the financial system.  So they have to keep the “extend and pretend” thing going and they have to keep distraction operations going, while Hillary has to make sure that she frames Trump as an unacceptable change agent for the country, regardless of what he says.

Most of the people out there are completely clueless about what’s really going on, I tell you. Many are living their little San Francisco bubble, or  New York City bubble — and you know what I’m talking about, Mark —  those privileged, entitlement folk who continue to act as if this is the year 2000 and this stuff is just irrelevant political posturing.

Folks, this is beyond a political posturing.  We have now is a revolution going on with this election. The question is, is this a Category 1 or 2 event?

Mark:  Right.  (sigh)  (laughs)  We could probably go on for another 10 hours here.

William:  (laughs)

Mark:  Let’s make sure we get your contact info with the time we have left.  While we have a chance here, tell everyone how they can get a reading from you or how to participate in your classes, tell people how to get a hold of you and what else you’ve got going on.

William:  Probably right now they’re all freaked out and saying, I’m not getting a reading from that guy!  The way he talks…

Mark:  (laughs)

William:  But the reality is that I tell it like I see it.  I tell it like I see it in terms of the context of your own life.  I provide solutions and strategies.  I’m not just a guy who says, oh, I think Pluto is coming to your Sun and it’s going to be a little tough time but you’ll get through it and call me in a year.  No, I’m not that type of astrologer.  I’ll call it like I see it.  I’ll provide you strategies.  I’ll give you insight.  I’ll get you out of your comfort zone to consider things you wouldn’t have considered.  I will prep you accordingly.  So don’t think I’m that type of astrologer that just leaves people high and dry.

So if I’m coming across in this interview that way it’s because I’m very passionate about what I’m saying and I’ve gotten a lot of kickback in a number of months because of what I’ve been seeing and constantly having to accept what the astrological community keeps pontificating, which is very contrary to what I’m seeing.

So, having said that, you can reach me at williamstickevers.com, or on Facebook.  Reach out to me, I’m very open to discussing things.  If you’re a staunch Democrat who believes Hillary wins by a landslide, that’s fine; I’m very open to what you believe, for I’m not partisan.  I don’t mean to offend anyone but I have to state the position.  We are beyond the point of plausible deniability, of extending and pretending, of just playing along with what we’re going to be told to do, pay out taxes, say nothing, just show up and pretend everything is fine.  That is over with folks.

Mark:  Yes.  I agree, and I think the next month will be fascinating to watch.  Kind of interesting that the first debate was on the day of a Pluto station.  The third debate, I believe, is on the same day of a Mars-Jupiter or Mars-Pluto conjunction.  But the second debate this Sunday, with the Moon in Capricorn and the Moon void-of-course.  So it just feels like there’s a lot of intensity on the first and third debates, and not that the one Sunday isn’t going to have intensity, but things that happen sometimes during that Moon void-of-course tend not to stick with people afterwords.

William:  I agree.  I don’t think the second debate is really going to determine the outcome of the election for the  undecideds in those seven battleground states.  I think, because Pluto is very prominent in the third debate and it’s making — for there are some very good aspects going on there, I think Trumpzilla is going to unleash his atomic breath.  You know, how at the end of Godzilla, you didn’t really know if he had that power.

Mark: Right.  (laughs)

William:  (laughs) Exactly. So I don’t want to give away the movie, but for those, we didn’t know if the new Godzilla had his atomic breath in the film, is  because he doesn’t show it until the most dramatic and most opportune moment, and then BOOM.

Mark:  (laughs)  Right.

William:  So that Mars-Pluto atomic breath, where the rage and the suppression — the people want Trump to nail her because she gets away with saying so much and she has moderators that protect her and she knows the questions beforehand.   But here’s the thing — the transits are really going to help Trump, and I believe Trump will triumph at the end on the third debate.  I believe that will be the moment when there will be “That’s it, I’ve made my decision.”  I also believe, folks, that something is going to start give  with the markets, and something is going to happen in the world, where there’s going to be a definitive crisis.  We’re already in a crisis with Deutsche Bank, we can’t go into that, we don’t have time.  But something is going to give and when those secular events set off, Trump is going to have better answers or at least he’s going to sound more convincing.  He may not have a plan but he’ll sound more convincing, he will do something about it.  He may not know what to do, but he’ll give the impression with that Mars-Pluto conjunction, I’m going to do this; I will do it.  And people will be convinced.  They want someone who’s going do something, because we’ve had a president, at least for the second term of Obama — you have to admit, Mark, for the second term, what has he done?

Mark:  Oh, nothing.  Nothing.

William:  Exactly right, nothing!  They want to see something dramatic, fast, and heroic.  They want to see a President that they see in the movies.  People want that.  And he’s going to act that out with “I will do it,” whatever that be, and I believe it will be with a brewing crisis.

Mark:  Right.

William:  So it doesn’t have to sound so crafted.  People don’t want to hear a perfectly crafted answer.  They want to hear something authentic, real, and be convincing that he really is going to follow through and do what he really says.  Right?  And once they’re convinced, they’re going to vote Trump.  I’m not talking about the people who’ve decided; I’m talking about the undecideds.  And I don’t even care about the California folks, or the New York folks.  I don’t care about New Hampshire folks.  All I care about is Ohio, Pennsylvania, I care about Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Nevada.  I’m looking at those states.  Because once we know what’s going on in those states, that determines the outcome of the election.  Nobody else.

Mark:  I agree.  And that takes us to the bottom of the hour here, we’ve got about five seconds I want to thank my guest William Stickevers for spending two hours and enlightening with us, and we will have you and Theodore both back on later this year, early next year to see what’s going on.

William:  Thank you very much for having me, Mark.  It’s a pleasure; it’s always great and I look forward to seeing you on Facebook and talking with you otherwise.  Thanks.

Mark:  Absolutely.  Great info.  Thank you, William.

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Annular Solar Eclipse – September 1, 2016

Annular Solar Eclipse – Sep 01, 2016 Washington, D.C.

Annular Solar Eclipse - Sep 01, 2016

 

The Annular Solar Eclipse on September 1st, 2016 at 9° 21′ Virgo will likely be a major watershed event for those nations and world leaders that get energized by it.  For this eclipse will be making a number of challenging aspects, making it very strong and compelling in its impact on the world stage. The Eclipse makes an opposition to Neptune, square to both Mars and Saturn,  and a sesquiquadrate to Uranus.

Saturn-Neptune Square

The Saturn-Neptune square alignment that has been active on the world since Fall of 2014 is associated with

  • chronic social stagnation,
  • protracted and debilitating situations,
  • partisan political malaise,
  • lack of clarity in national leadership,
  • growing unemployment,
  • chronic underemployment, and
  • the rise of collectivist solutions for many nations intractable problems.

Economically, Saturn-Neptune is historically associated with

  • deflation,
  • distorted markets,
  • artificially suppressed interest rates,
  • massive capital misallocation,
  • lack of price discovery,
  • back-door bailouts, and
  • financial bubbles.

So any distressed financial institutions and over leveraged market is likely face major difficulties, resulting in defaults and major market corrections.

Politically, Saturn-Neptune is historically linked with

  • scandal and
  • major reversals in power in political leadership often due to scandalous revelations.

Therefore, we can expect continued revelations and exposure of political corruption at the highest levels of government leading up to the General Election.

Mundane Horoscopes and the Sept. 1st Eclipse

A number of mundane horoscopes, including the natal chart of Prime Minister Erdogan of Turkey, Hillary Clinton (8:06 AM birth time), and the nations of Italy, Greece, and the USA Sibly Horoscope, will be energized and impacted by this eclipse.

Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan and the Eclipse

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (born on February 26, 1954, at 4:25 AM in Istanbul, Turkey) has been the Prime Minister of the Republic of Turkey since March 14, 2003. The September 1st 2016 Solar Eclipse makes a direct hit to Erdogan’s natal Sun by opposition. As students of mundane astrology know, eclipses conjunct or opposite the Sun, Ascendant or Midheaven are very powerful. Eclipses on the Sun of national leader gives power, however eclipses opposing the Sun will take power away.  Therefore, with this eclipse we can expect another major political shake-up in Turkey with the prospect of Erdoğan falling from power in the coming months ahead.

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan Horoscope

Hillary Clinton and the Eclipse

Hillary Clinton 8 AM Horoscope

Democratic Nominee for President Hillary Clinton (born on October 26, 1947, at 08:06 AM in Chicago, Illinois) also has the September 1st Solar Eclipse within striking distance to her natal Midheaven (4 degrees’ orb, within the 5-degree orb range). Her 6 Pisces Midheaven, along Solar Arc Uranus at 6 Pisces, and Progressed Mars at 7 Pisces, will be activated and energized.

Bi-Wheel Hillary Clinton - Solar Eclipse Sept 1st 2016Transiting Neptune will be directly opposing the Hillary’s Uranus/Ascendant midpoint and opposing her progressed Mars, indicating that we can expect sudden undermining revelations and developments as a result of former associations with foreign countries, along with a modest but significant loss of political momentum that set up the prospect of a major shakeup in her Presidential campaign team and strategy as the General Election begins to ramps up.

Clinton’s Presidential Campaign

The eclipse testimonies do not augur well for a successful prosecution of national campaign, as the country remains in persistent bad moon in such an unpredictable political year. The testimonies from the eclipse also indicate that Hillary’s campaign will remain in defensive mode and “off-message” with undecided voters, as anxiety grows within her base. The testimonies also augur that she will be unable to effectively distinguish herself from her unorthodox political rival Donald Trump who is more effective at capturing media attention and dominating the headlines and internet activity on almost daily basis.

Also, another concern facing Team Clinton will be the increasing voter enthusiasm gap as the campaign heads into the fall — Trump got more votes in the GOP primary than any candidate in history, while Hillary received fewer votes than she did in 2008 when she lost against Barack Obama.

The eclipse testimonies also indicate that we can expect further shocking revelations from Wikileaks, as founder Julian Assange told CNN this week that his website will release “a lot more material” that could negatively impact the election for Hillary Clinton.

Hillary is treading a different path toward the White House than her past three predecessors: Barack Obama, George W. Bush and her husband Bill Clinton, whom all presented themselves as agents of change in seeking the White House. The last president to be in a place similar to Clinton’s was George H.W. Bush, who was effectively seeking a third-term extension of the Reagan presidency. The eclipse hit to Hillary’s Midheaven along with other transits, indicates that she will have problems with reunifying a very diverse electorate (like Barack Obama effectively did in 2008), requiring her to dramatically change strategy and “core message” to voters midstream. This will be necessary in order to defend her base in the 7 Key Battle Ground States, as the craving for change continues to grow and intensify within the nation.

At the very least we can expect the eclipse to weaken and diminish Hillary’s iconic status which is the only clear advantage she has in the Democratic Party and her voter base. If her position is weakened going forward, her entire “left-of-center” Obama coalition risks collapse. However, most political pundits do not see this as a real possibility.

But the eclipse portents signify that Hillary’s prospects are more like “boom or bust” as the General Election campaign goes into its homestretch in late October.

U.S. Horoscope and the Eclipse

The September 1st Solar Eclipse makes a direct hit to the U.S. natal Ceres and Uranus and the Sibly ASC Degree (United States of America, July 4th 1776 5:10:59 LMT, Philadelphia, PA). The Eclipse occurs in the Mundane 9th House. This house is therefore connected to foreign relations. Therefore, it’s possible we may see the emergence of a foreign policy crisis that could take place during the course of the U.S. General Election. The Mars-Saturn conjunction of the Eclipse chart sits right on the Sibly Ascendant opposing natal Uranus.

Bi-Wheel USA Sibly and the Annular Solar Eclipse - Sep 01, 2016

According to astrologer Charles Jayne, the Eclipse will activate and manifest its archetypal power 90 days prior and remain in effect for at least 6 months afterward. On August 23, the Mars-Antares-Saturn conjunction at 8 degrees of Sagittarius will square the Eclipse point, acting as a trip-hammer setting off a daisy-chain burst of explosive and forceful archetypal energy on the world stage. The results of which will be disruptive to the status-quo and the pervasive normalcy bias that has infected much of the populace and collective.

U.S. Economy and the General Election

Thus we can expect a disruption in the exchange markets and deflationary developments in the general economy. Therefore, we can expect a major downward revision of U.S. GDP growth rate, indicating that the U.S. economy will be barely hanging on by its fingernails from falling into a full-blown recession. This will have a bearish impact on the stock market, and will dampen Hillary’s campaign prospects when it becomes clear that President Obama remains solidly on track to be the only president in all of U.S. history to never have a single year when the economy grew by at least 3 percent. Thus we can anticipate with the eclipse making multiple hits on the U.S. Sibly Horoscope that things are likely take a sharp turn down in the coming months, having a major impact on middle-class families, which may be enough to cost the Democrats the General Election.

Saturn-Neptune and the U.S. Economy

The ongoing Saturn-Neptune square alignment that is a main component of this eclipse indicates that we will see a major reversal in sentiment on the part of investors and financial institutions as it becomes clear that secular growth stocks and funds cannot outrun a stagnant, dysfunctional, and deflationary economy. Therefore, we will likely witness a change in emotional sentiment of extreme greed that has driven the markets over the past several years, to be replaced swiftly by extreme fear.

Therefore, we may witness the dramatic collapse of the Exchange Markets along with a
a liquidity crisis (Saturn-Neptune) that will expose the long-running central bank con job of where central banks buy public debt from the inventories of the 23 prime dealers and other market speculators or directly from the U.S. treasury, along with the monetization of the public debt, in order to keep the  markets artificially propped up since the end of the Great Recession in June of 2009.

Deutsche Bank and the Eclipse

The Eclipse will also make a direct hit on horoscope of Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank AG, founded 146 years ago (January 22, 1870 Berlin, Germany), is a German global banking and financial services company with its headquarters in the Deutsche Bank Twin Towers in Frankfurt. It has more than 100,000 employees in over 70 countries, and has a large presence in Europe, the Americas, Asia-Pacific, and the emerging markets. In 2009, Deutsche Bank became the largest foreign exchange dealer in the world with a market share of 21 percent. Also, the company is a component of the Euro Stoxx 50 Stock Market Index.

Deutsche Bank AG Horoscope

The eclipse opposes the Deutsche Bank Venus at 10 Pisces. The eclipse also conjuncts Deutsche Bank Solar Arc Neptune. Transiting Neptune is also conjunct Venus, and both Mars and Saturn squares it as well. As noted earlier the effect of Solar Eclipses are noticeable 90 days prior to the event, and we can see this action with the Deutsche Bank’s announcement of major fall in revenue and income. Deutsche Bank’s share price fell by 5.3 percent in early trading on July 27th after it announced second-quarter net income was down 98 percent from the same period in the previous year, to 20 million euros ($22 million).

As it approaches its 5th Saturn Return that will occur near the Total Solar Eclipse of August 2017, Deutsche Bank’s balance sheet fell some 48 percent.  Deutsche Bank shares now trade for two-thirds less than tangible book value which is a steeper discount than even during the depths of the financial crisis. Also, Deutsche Bank is sitting on a large pile of non-performing loans and has $72.8 trillion in derivatives contracts — an amount that is twenty times greater than German GDP — and has a leverage ratio of 40:1. Keep in mind that Lehman at the time of its collapse in September 2008, had a leverage ratio of 31:1.

The Solar Eclipse augurs that Deutsche Bank’s could be the first Too Big To Fail bank to collapse since 2008. This would result in a massive liquidity crisis in Europe and across the globe and to an unwinding of the derivatives.  However, unlike the collapse of Lehman Brothers in 2008, in which the Western Central banks were able to contain (due to the $16 trillion in bailout funds injected into the banks worldwide by the Federal Reserve), a failure of Deutsche Bank would trigger a systemic banking contagion the likes of which the world has never seen.


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Astrological New Year 2016 Begins

SunAries 03.20.2016
On March 20th, 2016 at 12:30:02 AM EDT, White House, Washington, D.C., the Sun ingressed into 00°00’ Aries. According to traditional sources a horoscope cast for the moment during the time the Sun comes into Aries at the site  of a nation’s capital city, provides a comprehensive image of the archetypal energies and potentials that will likely unfold and constellate as mundane events and happenings throughout the year. The astrological portents for 2016 indicate that the status of events that are now in play on the world stage will be changing very quickly.

diagram_death-transformation-rebirth_we-are-here
As a nation, we are experiencing a collective psycho-spiritual death-rebirth transformation process.

Also, we will see the continuing saga of the global power struggle between the political class and the general populace, accelerate and intensify. For history often repeats because the passions and vices of humanity never change, just those in power, from one century to the next. The constellating Uranus-Pluto/Saturn-Neptune/Jupiter-Saturn/Jupiter-Pluto Square alignments that in orb throughout this year, that is a prelude to the triple Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto Alignment in the Spring of 2020, makes it clear we are moving ever closer to absolute social/political/financial oppression as the Global Governance agenda continues to accelerate, that in turn will galvanize the collective (the 98.5% known as the silent majority) to get angry, demand change, organize and revolt.

Barbult Index 2011 - 2027

The Barbault Planetary Cyclic Index (the sum of all the angular distances between the pairs of the outer planets – Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto) measures  periods of stability and growth (upward wave)  along with periods of crises and recession (downward wave).  The Barbault Index will peak during the Grand Cardinal Cross alignment (497 days after the Mayan End Date) and begin its precipitous plunge, descending 497 points from 2014 to 2022, indicating that we are heading into dangerous and perilous period.

Starting today, March 20th, that tipping point is now within reach. So until social revolution goes “full throttle” in America, be prepared to lose any concept of rights you thought you once had or that standard of living that once had back in 1999. For we are not living the “dream” but the nightmare of history as the old order dies (1900 – 2020) and a new one struggles to be born (2020 – 2030).

 

 

 

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2015 Predictions Coming To Pass

October 1, 2015

Prediction: October 1st 2015 – Witnessing the Beginning of the Destruction Of Fiat Money And The Birth Of New Monetary System

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/10/01/the-global-economy-is-unwinding-and-the-central-banks-are-losing-control/


September 27, 2015

Prediction: A Black Swan event will emerge that embroils the U.S. into a major geopolitical crisis that could ignite a regional war in the Middle East, as nation’s bond markets begin to implode, setting off a dollar crisis.

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/super-blood-moon-lunar-eclipse/


September 13, 2015

Prediction:  This Partial Eclipse will augur the beginning of a global debt crisis, with the fall of the Financial Institution across the globe due in part to the unsustainable policies of the Central Banks. This debt crisis is likely to play out through a Black Swan financial event with powerful geopolitical implications that will spike market interest rates that will set-off a meltdown in the Bond Markets, as a daisy-chain of sovereign debt implosions begin to unwind invoking margin calls that invoke Credit Default Swaps in the OTC derivatives market.

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/09/13/partial-solar-eclipse-on-september-13th-2015-elul-29-the-shemitah-the-day-of-nullification/


August 14, 2015

Prediction: Deflationary Collapse Ahead

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/uranus-pluto-square-alignment-2012-2015-the-economic-collapse-has-already-begun-september-13th-2015-elul-29-the-day-of-nullification/


July 11, 2015

Prediction: A “no deal” vote by the EU will surely plunge Greece, and the rest of the EU, into financial and political turmoil. For it is clear at this point no matter what happens with Greece, the truth is that we are rapidly moving toward another major worldwide financial crisis.

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/07/11/prediction-a-three-year-grexit-will-commence-after-the-last-chance-eu-summit/


July 7, 2015

Forecast: The probability of contagion is very high now then it has ever been, expect defaults to occur in the coming months ahead that will cause bond yields to soar over Europe and possibly cause tremendous chaos in the global derivatives markets.

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/07/07/greece-referendum-aftermath-greece-is-coming-to-theater-near-you/


July 1, 2015

Horary Question: Greek Bailout Referendum: Yes or No?

Horary Conclusion: The Ascendant Degree is Invalid, being less then 3 degrees, indicating that it is premature at this time to make a final judgement on the matter. However, the horary testimonies support Vegas Oddsmakers’ current projections for a Yes Vote this coming Sunday that could possibly lead to a new election of a new unity government.

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/07/01/mundane-horary-greece-bailout-referendum-yes-or-no/


July 21, 2015

Prediction: Nomi Prins has made it clear in her keynote speech to the IMF and Federal Reserve that there is no saving global financial system. The Mundane Cyclic Planetary Index also makes clear that we have entered a period of pain, change, and crisis as we witness radical events of collapsing global currencies, contracting national economies, along with the breakdown and collapse of unsustainable, obsolete, and untenable systems of finance and banking. When this gigantic financial bubble finally implodes, it is going to be absolutely pernicious and horrific, and the entire planet is going to be shocked by the carnage and social upheaval that will follow.

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/06/21/uranus-pluto-square-alignment-2012-2015-the-economic-collapse-has-already-begun-keynote-speaker-nomi-prins-who-just-addressed-the-federal-reserve-imf-and-the-world-bank-warns-that-the-coming-col/


January 1, 2015

Prediction: Things will quickly unravel as we enter 2015, and the populace will soon forget much of the recent propaganda that the U.S. economy is growing strongly and that job creation is robust, for the world has NEVER been in a more precarious economic, financial, and geopolitical situation that it’s in right now. As those Derivatives begin to unravel and exert massive pressures, that could lead to insurmountable losses in the Credit Default Swap (CDS) markets, which in turn could take out the major banks. For it is clear we are about to undergo a period of pain, change, and crisis as we witness radical events of collapsing global currencies and commodities along with the breakdown and collapse of unsustainable, obsolete, and untenable systems of global finance and banking.

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https://williamstickevers.wordpress.com/2015/01/01/oil-price-plunge-will-be-the-black-swain-trigger-for-next-global-crisis/

Is There A Global Financial Crisis Coming?

Transcribed from “The Best People We Know” Radio Show with Deb Scott
“Is There A Global Financial Crisis Coming?” Guest: William Stickevers
(Airdate: September 3, 2015)

Deb Scott:  This is a very interesting show, very different because we’re going to talk about finances and what’s going on in current events.  And our guest today, William Stickevers is going to give us a little insight into that and I think you’ll find this show fascinating.

William Stickevers: Hi, Deb, and thanks for having me on this show again.

Deb: You’re always a hit — you’ve been on the show before and that was a hit, and I know that this will be very much appreciated for our listeners and that they can share this with other people that they know.  And on the Facebook page I have the article that you recently wrote and people can read that.  Although, I think you need a degree sometimes to read some of the things you write, so you can translate yourself for us here today.

My friend, what is going on?  You know, I was so amazed.  I was just looking at so many things with the news and then you sent me this email — I know your listeners are some cutting edge people, I’m a little partial to them, I think they’re the best — and that this information may be really helpful.  So we added a show on for you as soon as possible, and here you are.  So, talk to us, William — what is going on?

William:  What we’re seeing is very much what we discussed about a year ago, and that is the global economy is undergoing a major, re-engineering, and reconfiguration event.  And we are in the early stages of what we would call a [collective] “death-rebirth process,” where right now we’re seeing more of the death and breakdown that will continue, before we will see any transformation and rebirth, which is likely to happen into the next decade.  [Also,] it’s been [covert manipulation] of the Central Banks and world government that have colluded to prevent this breakdown or stall this process.  They effectively did so shortly after the 2008 financial crash.

Deb:  Yep.

William:  They put a lot of damage control mechanisms in place which we are beginning to see fail.  We’re seeing it in the emerging market countries such as China.  We’re also, seeing it in the Eurozone, with all the [record level of highly] leveraged sovereign debt with such nations as Greece, and Spain, Italy, and France, Ireland, and Belgium.  And now we’re beginning to see it with the U.S. economy and with the stock market.  We’re also seeing it with the bond markets, with the explosive levels of debt at the municipal and state government.  And we’re starting to see problems with the pension funds.  So what you’re seeing in play is part of a bigger [mechanism] process, and that is a large-scale, global re-engineering event that is now in play, that is beyond the control of government or corporations or central banks. And the solutions [implemented], which were never really solutions but more like Band-Aids, that were put in place in 2008 that are no longer working, and will no longer be effective to keep the system going. For all intents and purposes, the damage control is wearing off.  And it’s wearing off quickly.  This month [September 2015] will be arguably one of the most important months in modern American history for a number of reasons.

Deb:  Okay, well, we’re here with bated breath and the people in the chat room are saying that they’ve been seeing a lot of these things.  A lot of people are talking about October, there seems to be rumbling, of course the volatility in the stock market in the last few weeks has people getting a wake-up call.  And what you’re saying is that the Central Bank, and all of these economic safety features to bail everything out in 2008, that no longer is going to work with what’s coming now.  So, what could be coming?  Could America be like Greece, is there just going to be a global shift in everything?  As you say we have to get through the bad to get to the good, there’s a metamorphosis happening here.  So what’s happening in October, this is going to be something that people just can’t play ostrich to anymore, I suspect.

William:  Right.  I think what’s going to happen in October ultimately begins mid-September.  Throughout history there’s only been five times when the S&P 500 has declined more than 5% during the month of August, and when that happened, the stock market has always crashed or gone through a major correction in September.  September is the only month where the S&P fell more frequently than it ever rose.  What’s more — in the 11 times that the S&P fell more than 5% in August, it declined 80% of the subsequent Septembers and fell an average of nearly 4%.  Seven percent down [or greater] is a crash.  Four to six percent is a correction.  However, I’m projecting now that we could ultimately see the market decline more than 50%, between 40 and 55% market loss over the completion of the present market cycle.

Deb:  Between 40 and 50%?

William:  Correct.

Deb:  That’s like the Great Depression!

William:  That’s right.  And what’s happening here, with all this chaos [unfolding now] in the financial world, is essentially a convergence of both secular forces and astrological portents that will be taking place during the month of September, between September 13th and October 8th that is unprecedented.  It starts on the last day of Wall Street trading before the end of the Shemitah year.  Now, I don’t know if you’re familiar with that word, the Shemitah, but during Shemitah years, which occur every seven years, we have witnessed record-breaking stock market crashes on the very day of the Shemitah year, which in the Jewish calendar is Elul 29.  For example, if you go back to September 17, 2001, which was Elul 29 on the biblical calendar, we witnessed the greatest stock market crash in U.S. history up until that time.  The DOW plunged 684 points and it was a record that was held for exactly seven years until the end of the next Shemitah cycle.  On September 29, 2008, which was also Elul 29 on the biblical calendar, the DOW plummeted 777 points which still today remains the greatest one-day stock market crash of all time.

Deb:  Oh my God.

William:  Yes.  Now we are in another Shemitah year.  It began in the fall of 2014 and it ends on September 13, 2015, which is Elul 29 in the biblical calendar.  Now for those who don’t know, the Shemitah year was also called “the year of release” in biblical times because the land was allowed to rest and the financial accounts of those who were in debt were wiped out and cleansed once every seven years.  The seven year cycle can manifest as a blessing as long as a nation follows the will and law of God.  For those nations that stray from God’s law, the Shemitah can bring severe judgment, often striking in the financial realm of a nation realm with severe political and geopolitical implications.

So what’s interesting to note, is that there will also be a partial solar eclipse on September 13th, on the last day of the Shemitah.  And over the past century there have only been two other times when a solar eclipse has corresponded to the end of the Shemitah year.

Deb:  What happened then?

William:  Those two times were 1931, the beginning of the Great Depression where the recession that started in 1929 became a depression on the day of the Shemitah in 1931.  And in 1987.  So both events, we saw the largest stock market drop, one of the most significant drops in the history of the stock market in September 1987.  Both foreshadowed market panics, major financial corrections, recessions, and depressions.

Deb:  Oh great.  (laughs)  Wow.

William:  Also, as we head toward the Shemitah’s climax, the Barbault Planetary Cyclic Index — which is considered the DOW Jones Industrial equivalent in the astrological world, which measures the global economics, and geopolitical stability of human civilization — continues its precipitous downward plunge, meaning that conditions are devolving, becoming more uncertain.  So it’s going to descend 494 points from its peak in May 2014 when the year of the Shemitah began and it will descend all the way until it hits bottom in March 2022.  And between this type of convergence of the downward slide of the Barbault Planetary Cyclic Index, the Uranus-Pluto archetypal complex that’s been in play since 2012, and the Shemitah year, and we are now seeing this is the date of the last of full blood moons that fall on the biblical festival date during 2014 and 2015 where the blood moon will be a Super-Moon and will be clearly visible from the city of Jerusalem.

All of these [testimonies] augur that things are perfectly lining up for a global financial crisis beginning in the fall and winter of 2015.  So essentially that’s what we are foreseeing here.  Right now what the Markets are detecting, in all the volatility that keeps accelerating and intensifying, is the fact that the bond markets is overheating. So debt [in the form of bonds] on all levels, has become unsustainable, untenable, and ready to implode. All of that is more likely to being to happen in October onward.  So we’re going to see lots of crazy things unfold in the world, and in the markets. Particularly with the stocks in September, and then we’re going to see the government bond markets and the derivatives that are leveraged against those bonds, begin to implode.  When this begins, it is going to be a problem where the Central Banks begin to lose control of the global financial system.

Deb:  Okay.  This is a lot to take in, William, so for the rest of us, this is a lot to take in.  So, one of the things that I had read about — and again, I’m not an expert like you but I wanted to ask you about it.  Isn’t the global bank making some announcement in October about accepting some other currency?  Hasn’t there been talk with Russia and China saying that they don’t always want to have the dollar be the only one accepted?  Is that part of all of this?

William:  That’s certainly part of all of this.  In fact, the Chinese created their own banking system which is now called the AAIP with 95 countries, including England, our closest ally.  There’s a discussion going on right now about using the yuan as a means of trade settlement for this banking system which is a competitor to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank, which both happen to reside in Washington, D.C.   What we’re seeing here is that the world is moving away from the U.S. dollar [as a means of trade settlement and core Central Bank assets by other nations], and the fact that the Chinese are doing a reverse QE [monetary strategy] by selling U.S. treasuries to prop up their yuan, as they continue to purchase gold.  So there is essentially a currency/trade war [in progress] with the United States. They are selling off the $1.4 trillion of U.S. treasury bonds that they hold [in their Central Bank] and converting them into dollars, and then buying yuan with those dollars.  In effect they’re propping up the value of their currency while also devaluing it in order to make them more competitive in world-trade so their manufactured products can continue to be purchased as low prices [by America and Europe], because the issue [with this crisis] really comes down to the fact that nobody’s buying products across the globe.  We have all this capacity, we have all this product out there, but the level of purchasing and the level of consumption is at an all -time low.  In fact, it’s lower now than it was just prior to the Lehman Crisis that occurred in 2008.

Deb:  So if I’m understanding you correctly, dumping the dollar to buy these yuans from China to get the value up on them, is the IMF, if they come at the federal banks and they say this yuan is accepted, the dollar’s going to go down to nothing.

William:  That’s right.  It’s actually not going to happen in one day, but what’s happening now is the IMF is giving great consideration to include the Chinese yuan as part of the SDR [composite basket], which is Special Drawing Rights, or what you would call world money.  So the idea here is that if central banks across the world want to cash out their [core reserve holdings in] U.S. treasuries, the IMF would be willing to swap U.S. treasuries with SDRs.  All that becomes possible if the yuan was included as a composite of the SDR.  Right now that’s not the case, but as soon as it is, then we are talking about the transition of the world reserve currency — the U.S. dollar, established in 1945 under the Bretton-Woods Agreement — will effectively come to a swift end.  That would mean $17 trillion of U.S. dollars would start flowing back into the United States, which would basically crash [the value] of our dollar, and eventually crash our entire [economic] system. This is something on top of all the other challenging and unresolved fundamental issues that we’re we have been dealing with since 2008.  So again, this would be another major thing on top of the issues we’re already dealing with.  The real issue has to do with the fact that nothing was fixed [during the 2008 crisis].  Nothing!

Deb:  Smoke and mirrors.  They did smoke and mirrors.

William:  Correct.  And for those partisan political folks out there listening to this program that believe voting for Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush is the ultimate solution [to this nation’s problems], just remember that it was both George Bush and Barack Obama who bailed out the financial system.

Deb:  Yeah.

William:  So both parties are liable.

Deb:  I agree.  Listen, my feeling — this isn’t a political show, but just for the record, I have to claim my chair — I just think that the last thing that this world needs is another Bush or Clinton.  But from what I’m hearing you say, the next obvious question to you is: okay, we can see that they never fixed it.  We can see that there’s a systemic problem; they just put a little makeup on the situation to keep their heads buried in the sand so that the world stayed status quo.  But at some point, and this is the point we’re at, the obvious is going to become inevitable to accept.  So what do we do?  We’re being prepared, you’re telling us, we’re aware.  What is it that you want listeners, and I include myself, what do we do?  What do we do to be best prepared because we obviously can’t stop it?

William:  Well, I think the first thing we need to do is no longer use the mainstream financial media as a means to guide our decision-making [and form our opinions].  This applies as well in terms of making any future financial decisions and preserving one’s wealth. Because one of the things I predicted — this prediction was posted on my blog back in the [early] summer — is during the weeks ahead, we can expect excessive rationalization by the talking heads of the mainstream financial media, make unprecedented proclamations of assurance.  Including President Obama, in order to prevent the loss of credibility and confidence with the general populace as we witness unexpected volcanic shocks to the global system that continue to accelerate and intensify.  So the first thing you’ve got to do is stop listening to Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, as the sources of information that help guide you or formulate your decision about what you may need to do in order to protect your pension, or protect your 401k, to protect your savings.  That’s the first thing.  Because remember, the moment people lose confidence in the system, it is the beginning of the end for [the system], for they cannot continue their [policy] of financial repression that only empowers a small group of elite or what is now termed “The 1%,” while it disempowers the 99% over the long-term.  So that’s step number one.

Deb:  Okay, everybody, and I see people in the chat room — “Thank you for asking this, Deb, taking notes” — me too.  So the first thing is let’s not believe the mainstream media because they’re going to try to rationalize this when it starts to fall apart, they already are, so just stop going to them because you can’t expect the truth when the truth isn’t in them, and that’s the first thing we need to do.

William:  Step two would be to prepare for a financial dislocation event, like what we saw recently in Greece where capital controls can be put into place.  Where they’ll say, “don’t worry, your money is safe but you can only take out 200 bucks” and then the cash machines run out of money by 1pm [like they did in Cyprus].  Where your MasterCard, or credit card, or debit card will only work up to a certain amount. Where you can get gas [for your car] over so many days. Where there will be issues and problems with all electronic transactions in stores.  Where we’ll see a suspension of certain services as capital controls are imposed.  People tell me, [when they hear this] “well, that never happened, that stuff just sounds like something out of a movie!”  Well, in fact that DID happen, when they closed the banks for 4 days in March 1933 and confiscated all the gold. They also did a form of a bail-in for certain accounts that had at that time $1000 and over — keep in mind most people didn’t have $1000 in their checking or savings account — and they gave them an IOU for both the gold and for their money, which they did not receive back until 1953.  The bank bail-in gold confiscation act, where people lost money and many of them did not live long enough to get compensated back.  And when they did get compensated it was at the 1933 [monetary] level of compensation, not the 1953 level that included inflation.  So, it’s happened before! Keep in mind the government was flush with money [in 1933]. We had trade surpluses.  We were 73% of the world’s GNP, the largest manufacturer, the largest producer, exporter.  We were the largest exporter of oil.  Today we have the largest trade deficit in the world.  We consume oil more than any nation; we’re a consumption, not manufacturing economy.  We manufacture very little. Manufacturing is only 8% of the economy.  We consume more than all the nations of the planet combined, and yet we make less and less.  We have the largest debt of all the countries in the world combined.  The government is both broke along with the corporate system.  Back in the ’30s the government had real assets, it was the corporate system that was broke.  Today both corporations and the government are broke.  So when people tell me that what I’m saying is just never going to happen, it tells me that they are very, very uninformed about [history and] what is now in play.

Deb:  Okay, I have to pause for a minute because this is very overwhelming.  And I’m getting different messages in the chat room here.  So first of all for the naysayers about this dislocation event, you’re saying, look, people, it’s already happened in 1933, the banks were closed for four days, and not only did it happen and they confiscated the money and the gold, the United States was a heck of a lot stronger back in 1933 than we are now.  So imagine if that happens with the situation we are in now.  So that’s point #2?

William:  That’s point #2.

Deb:  Alright. Okay.  So, I think we’re all waiting with bated breath.  Now this #2, this potential dislocation event and all that, that could happen in October or this whole thing starts in October and then it comes soon after?  Where is that in the sequence here?

William:  It’s a good question.  It could happen somewhere in early October, but it could happen a few months down the line.  I believe the big events will begin to go off where the central banks will begin to lose control and all emergency measures, including Quantitative Easing 4, will be invoked.  But I believe they can only hold off these type of financial dislocations where many of the banks begin to go under and go into receivership with the government.

Deb:  For how long can they hold that off?  So you’re saying a dislocation event could happen in October, November, December, January.  It could happen anywhere in there?

William:  Yes, it can.  We’ll probably see it happen in other countries first, and thinking we’re protected and we’re going to hear again the bobbling rationalization from the talking heads…

Deb:  Right.

William:  …saying, “Don’t worry, all is well, this is just a healthy correction,” but that is certainly not going to be the case.  If anything, we’re going to see what happened around the world eventually catch up to us.  I don’t think it’s going to happen here first.  We’ll see it in other countries, maybe in October we’ll start seeing it in China.  We’ll start seeing it throughout Asia.  We’ll start seeing it throughout Europe, and the Middle East too.

Deb:  Yep.

William:  It’ll start spreading like a virus, and then when it happens, it’ll happen swiftly here [with the U.S. markets].  And I’m not saying this is going to last forever, or that we’re going to be eating canned food out of caves, or that we’re going to become a “Mad Max” civilization.

Deb:  Right.

William:  But I do see a period of several months where we’re going to live in a world where all the certainty that we had, certainly since the Second World War, is going to be turned upside-down and evaporate.

Deb:  Yep.

William:  And so that could last for a period of 30 days, 3 months, some people say 6 months, but based on what I’m seeing it’s between 30 days and 3 months.

Deb:  Okay, so William, what’s the next point?  Because we want to know what we need to be doing because obviously knowledge is power.  And what other suggestions or what’s the next point you want to make to us?

William:  Well, the next point has very much to do with a statement by Damian McBride, an advisor to Gordon Brown, who suggested that he stock market downturn that began a couple weeks back could lead to civil disorder or other situations where it would be unreasonable for someone to leave the house.  And that was a very telling statement.  That tells me that time is short, very short.

Deb:  Say that again please, I missed that.

William:  The top advisor to Gordon Brown, who was essentially the head of the central banking system in the UK, suggested that the stock market downturn could lead to civil disorder and other situations where it would be unreasonable for someone to leave their house.  So this is a very telling statement.

Deb:  So Baltimore?  Everywhere is Baltimore and Ferguson, is that it?

William:  Well, those are all [systemic] symptoms of what we’re going to see spread throughout the nations. The government has done a pretty decent job at containing it, but they can only can contain it in a few areas.  Once the [large scale] dissent begins to spread, it will no longer be considered a racial issue, but more of issue of gross economic inequality compounded by and escalating crisis as fiscal dislocation events that begin occurring. Then at some point,  what we saw on TV will become something that happens in our own town or city.

Deb:  Yeah.

William:  So, one of the things that I’m suggesting is get hard cash in a safe place now.  Don’t assume that the banks and the cash points will be open.  Don’t assume that the bank cards will work.  That’s number 1.  Number 2, have enough water, food, and other essentials to live off of for a period of at least 30 days.  Also, we will see a disruption in communications systems, at least for a period of time.  We have to have rallying points where if communication gets cut off, where people can head to.  These are things that are now being talked about in the UK.  If the bank bailouts didn’t work in 2008, we would’ve had massive financial dislocation events.  What’s now coming is on 20 times that scale because the level of debt has exploded, 60% greater than it was in 2008.  And yet, the global economy, when you factor in inflation and you use real hard numbers, has actually contracted.  What we’re seeing here with the markets is just a prelude of things to come.

Deb:  So William, let me ask you this.  If we’re not going to be leaving the house, and the phone, and the internet and all that — it doesn’t bother me because actually, I mean I love my radio show, but I think a tech break would be good, but it’s going to give everyone a heart attack.  You know, food, water, things like that, but if you can’t get to your money to buy anything, if you’re — well, you’re getting, what, 0% in the bank anyway — so what do you do, I mean, gold, silver — if people want food and water, is gold and silver even going to be worth it to have?

William:  Well, people say, well, you know, I can’t lose this amount of money, I’m really worried.  I say, well, how much is it that you cannot lose, absolutely cannot lose?  And they’ll give me a different number.  Five thousand, ten thousand, a hundred thousand, whatever it might be.  I say take that money, cash out, convert it into silver or gold coins or silver and gold bullion, keep it in a secure location that you can get to in your home or somewhere else in a private, secure location facility.  That will be your insurance because a lot of people just can’t pull their money out of their 401k, they can’t —

Deb:  Right.  You’re not going to take it all out.  You’re not suggesting to people, okay, take out everything that you have.  You’re saying take a portion of what you have and convert that into cash dollars or something that is a hard asset like gold and silver and so forth, right?

I’m going to read something from someone in the chat room: “Countries always draw on their gold reserves from the Fed.  I would like to know why they even put their gold into the Fed’s vaults to begin with.  Gold and silver will not be as good as people think if a real serious crash comes.”  Did you have a comment for that?

William:  Yes, it will, because the assumption is that the currency system will still be in place; in other words, we’ll have more of the same thing all over again.  That’s just not going to happen.  I always hear this from people, it’s not going to be the same.  What we had last time was a liquidity problem, and basically they flooded the system.  What we’re going to have now is a debt problem that’s going to result in a global breakdown and restructuring, or systemic crash followed by a restructuring of the currency system.  So valuations are going to go back to where they really need to go, and as a result that’s going to impact the currencies and the value of things.  So the only way to ensure that you don’t lose value is to put things into silver or gold.  However, that being said, I’m telling people have at least $4,000 in cash, in 20s, 10s, and 5s, because if you were affected by Hurricane Sandy, you could take a 20 dollar bill, go to the gas station and say “I need some gas” and they would accept that 20 dollar bill.  Not a gold coin, but a 20 dollar bill, to fill up your tank because the electronic cards weren’t working.  So, those types of things.

Deb:  So you’re saying $5,000 in cash?

William:  Four to five thousand.  At least $2,000.  This is not to pay rent.  No landlord is going to come knocking on your door during a financial dislocation if you can’t electronically send them your check.  No one’s going to shut your electricity off, at least during a crisis — the government will put certain [emergency controls and] things into place.  They have to do so, else they could [quickly] lose the country if people lose complete faith and the government completely does a “Katrina” on us, if you know what I mean.

Deb:  Yep.

William:  They’ll lose the country in the process.  And then people will start pulling their guns out.  So, what they’re going to do is put certain government controls in place, and certain capital controls in place.  So you’re going to want to have that cash for this type of event.  You’re going to want to have some gold and silver for those who have a certain amount of wealth that they want to preserve because we’re going to have a currency crisis that’s very much connected with all this debt and leveraged debt created by the central banks.

Deb:  Wow.  Okay.  So.  Here we are.  What else?  Well, don’t be afraid.  We knew it was coming.  A lot of people know that something — whether you believe in the metaphysical, the astrological, if you’re just looking at numbers and you have a unique ability to put it all together, and that’s why you speak around the world as an expert on these topics, and this is your business and this is what you do.  So, what you’re saying is, look, don’t be afraid, don’t panic, we knew it was coming, these are the simple things you can do in the immediate short-term.  You’ve got to have some cash on you.  It’s not like the world is going to fall apart in a day, but there are going to be some serious changes.  And what you’re saying is, the idea that things are going to go back to normal, there’s going to be a new normal.  So you’re saying it could be a whole new currency.  We could have dollars one day and wake up with “patriot dollars” after this, right?  It could be a whole new thing.

William:  Right.  We don’t know how it’s all going to play out.  Nobody does.  But most everyone who I listen to, in terms of who I follow, who by the way have great track records, [– and I’m not talking about the astrologers, per se –] are saying the same thing.  By the way, there are many astrologers out there who [disagree and] believe that everything is fine, that the economy is roaring along. That the Obama Recovery is almost now complete, and Hillary Clinton will get elected on a landslide as a result.  However, in the financial community, those who invest and make trades independently of Wall Street, who have clear visibility on their financials, who are really on the up and up with geopolitical events, and again have a great track record on calling what happens next, all are in agreement now — and these are billionaires like Eric Sprock for example. It’s not a matter of “if;” it’s a matter of “when,” “what day,” and “what level of impact.”  Everyone agrees the level of impact of the crisis will be much greater than 2008.

Deb:  And 2008 was devastating.

William:  Right, and this will be much greater.  In fact, it will be worse than the ’30s in terms of what happens [to the middle class].  Nobody really knows exactly how the central banks will respond. So we are in unchartered territory.  We’re in The Twilight Zone.  The astrology definitely alludes to that.  In fact, I’ve been writing about this before many of these Wall Street people began writing about this.  We saw major problems unfolding in the world within the mundane astrological community — when we looked at the horoscopes of nations and central banks, and the horoscopes of first-trade stocks and of corporations, and the first-trade charts of bonds and the markets – where we saw a correlation of major and severe stressful portents impacting many of those horoscopes. All essentially occurring between 2014 through 2022.  And what we’re seeing now, is playing out perfectly according to the larger mundane astrological cycles.  For those folks listening who dabble in astrology, or those who are even professionals who don’t look at this type of data, won’t see what’s happening.  But for those that do, it’s very clear.  There’s a direct correlation now between the astrological and the secular data trends. There’s almost like a perfect storm brewing.  What we’re also seeing that is now happening with the presidential election [underway], with the fact that Jeb and Hillary, the establishment candidates, are no longer [the central focus and] being talked about in the mainstream news, but rather Trump and Bernie Sanders. The fact that everyone is talking about Trump and Sanders is a very telling sign that people have lost confidence [in the political and economic system].

Deb:  It is, yeah.  I can’t believe that all the people that are leading the polls are non-politicians.

William:  That’s right.  They’re certainly not mainstream.  Trump is from one extreme and Sanders is from the other extreme in their respective parties.  And the people who run those major parties don’t want them to be the nominee.  In fact, they’re going to pull out all the stops to end their campaigns. The moment this occurs and goes down, it will dramatically change the dynamic of the race in 2016.  What you’re seeing now is not even being factored in [by the political pundits].  There’s going to be a completely different political landscape the day after the big [meltdown] event.   What I’m saying is, don’t even try and contemplate who’s going to win right now, who’s ahead, who’s behind.  What I can say is with certainty is, expect the unexpected [in this race].

Deb:  (laughs) Expect the unexpected.

William:  Yes.

Deb:  Right.  But it all connects.  So what you’re saying is, you look at the stars, you look at that Jewish calendar, the Shemitah year, you look at the Wall Street billionaires.  You look at all of it together, and they’re all validating one another.  So even if you don’t believe in one thing, the other thing is still saying the same thing and that perfect storm is happening right now.  And the fact that the outsiders are leading the polls in the political landscape is just saying people don’t have confidence, don’t have faith in the system, it’s just one more thing.  And once this happens, there’s going to be a whole new awakening, and it’s going to be a very different landscape.  But I have to make some more comments from the chat room — they want you to comment on this.  “Didn’t William just say a currency system will be in crisis?  All bull—-.  What we’re going through now is a result of the Fed’s secret manipulation that refuses to reveal with the IMF and the World Bank.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump is being set up to fail.”  Any comments on that?

William:  Yes.  There is a lot of talk now with the way it’s all being played out so perfectly, that this is all choreographed by the global elite.  There’s a lot of evidence for that, and I do not discount that at all.  In fact, my contention is that they are going for a massive asset grab [after the financial implosion that they created], where they will be purchasing the sovereign assets of countries and central banks, and taking total ownership of whole nations after this event occurs.  However, the way I see it [play out] is that it will set off a global revolution, not just in politics but in thought, in social institutions and [establishment] structures.  The way we’ve defined ourselves [as a nation] since 1945 is going to go through a complete breakdown and revolution.  Even the [nation’s] oligarchical elite, a group that denies its own existence and is hidden in plain sight, is going to go through their own “come to God” moment during this great unfolding.

Deb:  And what’s the good news for the rest of us?  Is there going to be more fairness, justice, appreciation, respect?  I mean, are there going to be good things coming out of this stuff even though it’s going to be painful, this transition?

William:  Ultimately, it will.  But we’re going to have to go through the death and transformation before we have the birth and the renaissance to follow.  We’re going to have to get through this period [of pain, change and crisis].  This is what I’m seeing during this period between now, from 2014 through 2022, when it will hit rock bottom, before it begins to rebound in a dramatic way [through 2030].

Deb:  But that’s a big space there, William, between 2014 and 2022.  That’s a lot of years.

William:  Yes, it is.  And that’s why I’m telling people to prepare, telling people that they’re going to have to rethink their lives no matter what age they are.  The Baby Boomers are going to have to reconsider that cushy retirement plan.  The Generation Xers are going to have to rethink if they really want to go further up the corporate ladder when they’re actually making substantially less than their older peers.  And Generation Y is going to have to rethink what type of world they want to live in 40 years from now and they’re going to want to see things go through a much greater change than many of their Baby Boomer parents are willing to tolerate and deal with.

In the ’60s, we saw generational wars, and now we are going to see big [collective] argument [unfold among the generations] about what type of future we need to have in order to have a sustainable, tenable, and thriving global civilization [in the future].  And right now, the way [the system] is modeled, it benefits the older generation and the 1% [power elite]. It benefits a very small segment of the population that’s aging, and disempowers the [social upward mobility of the] younger population and those who are not in the upper echelon of the income bracket.  You’re going to see major disparity and fighting between the generations [in the months and years ahead] and it’s going to be very much connected with the massive gap of social and economic inequality gap that is growing, and will be put onto the table shortly after this [reconfiguration] event.

Deb:  Alright.  Well, I tell you what, we’re at the end of the show.  I just want to thank William and thank everybody for being here.  I have to ask you if there’s an emergency call and we have our BlogTalkRadio on air, would you come back?  We may need to hear from you again in the next month or so!  But I want people to go to your website and your Facebook page to get the updates so we can all stay informed and be aware and be prepared.  Tell people how they can connect with you.

William:  They can connect with me through my Facebook page and my website, and I often blog and make posts on what is happening, real time, not just commenting but also making forecasts and predictions from it using the sophisticated astrological techniques that I employ to these global events that are now in play.

Deb:  Well, we’re getting a lot of positive feedback in the chat room, and thank you everyone there for participating and being part of the show.  And, William, I think the hope that we have to have here is it’s a blessing to be warned, and thank you for sharing this with us.  But we shouldn’t be afraid.  We have some things that we can do; we have some time to do it.  Most of us that are listening to you and following you have already realized that something’s been going on anyway.  Don’t listen to the media.  Don’t listen to the news stations.  And take care of yourself, and protect yourself and it’s a process that’s going to be difficult but there is light at the end, right?  And we have to stay positive, right?

William:  Yes.  I think it’s very important to stay positive.  There is light at the end of the tunnel.  We are going to have a better world, better government, a better country.  We are going to begin to work out these major issues that have been suppressed [within the collective]. The “more of the same but only worse” [meme] is going to come to a swift end.  We’re going to go into a period of uncertainty but in that uncertainty, something very potent and creative will emerge, and something very good will come out of it all.

Deb:  Okay.  Well, we want you to come back.  I’m going to trust that you will and thank you so much and God continue to bless your work.  William, we really appreciate you, and everybody go connect with William right now so you won’t forget.  Get to that Facebook page, your posts are great, and thank you SO very, very much, William.

William:  Thank you for having me on the show, and I really look forward to us talking again in the near future.

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Mundane Astrology, What’s Really Happening with the Economy, and What You Can Do

Transcribed from The Astrology Show with Mj Patterson
“What’s Coming in 2015 with William Stickevers”
(Airdate: January 2, 2015)

Mj Patterson: I’m delighted to welcome back William Stickevers from San Francisco.  He’s calling in from a great distance to have a chat with us about the year ahead.  Here we come, 2015.  Let’s find out.  Are we going to make money?  Are we going to lose money?  Is something going to explode?  What’s the deal?  So, welcome, William.

William Stickevers: Thank you for having me again, Mj.  It’s a real pleasure.  I really enjoyed our last interview and I’m totally psyched about talking about 2015 because, well, get your seatbelts on — it’s going to be a rough ride next year.

Mj:  Yeah, that’s what everyone’s saying.

William:  It will be very interesting.  There’s a lot to talk about.

Mj:  I think a lot of my senior students, they feel a kind of drift in the ocean when they don’t mind doing a birth chart and they can do your basic progressions and transits.  But when somebody asks them a big question “what’s going to happen in 2015,” I think they feel that they don’t know what to pick up first.  Do you have any advice?

William:  Well, first of all, what we’re talking about here is mundane astrology, which is a whole other gamut of perspective, tools, worldview.  It’s actually [a way of] trying to understand a civilization [through astrology] the way we study a personality as a psychic structure that is developing and unfolding and self-actualizing as a person, through [the lens of] a personal chart.  Everyone goes through their own personal self-actualization.  Astrologers look at horoscopes to help guide individuals in that process of that self-actualization, especially if that self-actualization has been somewhat interrupted or in a state of trauma or distress.  We look at the same things by applying mundane [astrological] techniques to looking at horoscopes of a nation state or events, and using a host of other astrological techniques and approaches that give us [global] perspective on what [Carl] Jung would call the archetypal development of the collective unconscious that is emerging on the world stage.

Mj:  And it really is a horse of an entirely different color, isn’t it?

William:  Yes, it’s completely different and we have to be much more objective in our approach which is very difficult.  We have to take away our partisan political leanings and we actually sometimes have to strip away a lot of our precepts of how the world ought to be.

Mj: (laughs) Yeah.

William:  What are the mundane portents really telling us? One of the things that’s really interesting about mundane astrology in particular, is that most astrologers are pretty much in agreement with the meanings of major alignments such as Saturn-Neptune or Jupiter-Uranus, Uranus-Pluto, etc. They’re pretty much in agreement [about their underlying archetypal meaning and expression], where you don’t find that in natal astrology.

Mj:  Not nearly so much.  I will concur.  I think that’s a very sound observation.

William:  Yes.  So in a way it is sometimes much easier, where mundane astrologers can get together and we find that we agree on 80% of how we see things unfolding, and [the remaining] 20% is areas that we’re disagreeing in, which [often] is subtle. And that’s a good thing; I like that. Where with natal astrology, it’s almost like trying to herd cats together.

Mj: (laughs) Yeah, I’ve heard that used before with astrologers, for sure.

William:  Right.  So what we’re going to talk about today is looking at two horoscopes that will give us an idea of what we can expect [in 2015-16], where things are moving towards, and what possibly we can do about it, to whatever level we can.

Mj:  Do you have — I should’ve asked you this before we started but let me ask you now — do you have a website where you might have these charts displayed?  Because I could put a link to that from my site and the listeners could have a chance to go ahead and take a look at them.

William:  Sure.  My website is williamstickevers.com and I have specially on my site on my blog forecasts for the astrological year 2014 and all those charts are listed there.

Mj:  That’s perfect.  So I’ll make sure to signpost everybody over there so they can enjoy the visual while you’re explaining it.  That’s going to make it really good for them.

William:  Right.  Now the other thing I want to establish here is that from the way I do traditional mundane astrology — and I use the word tradition, going back to the tradition — that March 20th was the astrological new year, not January 1st, not December 21st.

Mj:  Absolutely.  Agreed.  Yep, going for the equinox, you mean, the spring equinox.

William:  Correct.  And so therefore, astrological 2014 will go into January, February, and into most of March of next year.

Mj:  Cool.  Okay.

W:  So we’re still in 2014 on January 1st [2015], folks, in terms of how mundane astrologers match up the year and make forecasts.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  So, saying that, we can look at the chart of 2015 using the March ingress, and we could also take the December 21st chart when the Sun ingresses into 0 Capricorn and get an idea of the last quarter of 2014.

Mj:  Well, I figured that one out so — I’m just going to put my cards right on the table: I am not a mundane astrologer.  I have my CA-NCGR so of course I have enough mundane astrology to be able to nod wisely when someone like yourself who is a mundane astrologer discusses things; I don’t feel like a complete numpty.  But you’re streets ahead of me on this one, William.

William:  Well, you know, it’s simply because I have dedicated, I would say, hundreds to thousands of hours doing this [work].  I’ve read probably 200 books on [or related to] mundane astrology [over nearly 30 years], and not only that, I read books like Don’t Bank On ItThe Death of Money, numerous books on geopolitics. I have subscriptions to newsletters from some of the best people I consider in the business, if not in the world who do financial forecasting.  So I’m totally immersed in it, and it’s something that I feel I need to do now in order to give people perspective.  And the [main] reason I was pushed into this [study] was I wasn’t able to give my clients the answers to many of the problems they were beginning to have [back in 2007-2008]. For example, Jupiter was transiting their 10th house of career so they should have gotten a [well-paying] job, during their peak earning years and were not employed, especially having a master’s degree, and they were unemployed for over two years [when they came to me for a reading.]

Mj:  Wow.

William:  Yes…living in New York City.  So I said to myself, I’ve got to figure out what’s going on here because the old rules in natal astrology weren’t working. For example, you’ve got transiting Jupiter and Solar Arc Uranus hits your Sun everything should be happening and it wasn’t happening for them.

Mj:  Got ya.

William:  So that’s what pushed me into this.

Mj:  I have to say, I had a very similar experience.  My mom’s in this little club and they play on the stock market — it’s the Toronto Stock Exchange, though, not the DOW Jones or any of those.  But so I thought, this is kind of cool, maybe I’ll have a little fun here, learn a little bit about astrology and try to help them out.  And none of the indicators that the “baby” books — because I was starting out, right — none of the indicators were applying anymore.  It’s almost like the rules are being changed under our feet.

William:  Absolutely.  And it has.  It has in so many ways.  And one of the problems today is that many of the astrologers who are counseling who are not keeping their world view updated and looking at where the trends are moving are not able to help their clients at the level they once were able to.  And that’s one of my goals is to inform the astrological community that being aware of the mundane cycles will help you become a better consulting astrologer.

Mj:  It seems only logical.

William:  So a lot has been going on.  I predicted quite a bit for 2014.  I believe the best — or worst — is yet to come in this last quarter, especially now that we are in the last two Uranus-Pluto squares.

Mj: Yep.

William:  And I believe what we’re seeing, in essence, is a collective revolution and a massive upheaval of the [current] power structure and system in governance, and economics, and even the sciences.  There’s a complete revolution going on.  It’s happening worldwide.  There’s more protests, strikes, changes in government that have been occurring at an unprecedented rate.

Mj:  Indeed.  And I had a little fun, not knowing any of this stuff, I did the only thing I knew how to do and I researched and I looked back in time.  And there’s some crazy stuff, man.  The Nazi takeover of Germany, apparently, in 1933 was a Pluto-Uranus square.  They even cover Genghis Khan; they call him “master of medieval blitzkrieg” and that was in 1201.  And that was a conjunction, mind you, but they were basically on the war path throughout the waxing square.  So, yeah, I think it’s going to be pretty crazy.

William:  Yes.  In fact, look at the last Uranus-Pluto conjunction.  We had the ’60s protests, the counterculture revolution.

Mj:  Yep.

William:  We had a revolution in the sciences at the time.  We had the psychedelic revolution, we had the space age revolution, the microprocessor revolution, the computer revolution.  We also had revolutions in art, film, and it was also the golden age of television.

Mj:  And it almost seems like one foot, the other foot.  Because what I’m reading is, yes, they had these revolutions and then they had this power backlash where people were trying to squash, like the Nazi takeover of Germany, they actually mention the illegalization of LSD during the square.  So it’s like there’s busting out all over and then there’s people getting really stressed out about that, the people who are trying to hang on to the power and really putting the boot down.

William:  Well, yes.  It also stirs up the oligarchical elite or the [fossilized] patriarchal power structure to strike back [at the masses]. Keep in mind the repressive properties get constellated as well. That’s the shadow side of these Uranus-Pluto alignments which many people avoid talking about.  And we’re seeing that now those repressive measures by government through the Patriot Act, and the various other bills that are being pushed through [executive order] without due process of law that are taking away habeas corpus.

Mj:  Yeah, we’re having the same problems.  It’s not a national thing either because in Canada, we’re dealing with exactly the same thing.

William:  Right.  So that’s really the icing on the top.  What’s really happening as well, and what you have to realize is that these things are being put in place because they’re protection measures to [prop-up and] keep an obsolete system going and to prevent it from fracturing and imploding on its own weight.  And that has to do with the [large-scale] economic systems that are in place.  So what we’re witnessing now is really the collapse of that system.

Mj:  I wish I could find the article that I noted because I’ve been looking at this for the last few months, just being nosy, trying to peek under the covers.  And I can’t remember which angle it was, but somebody had written — it might even have been you — about that in the past when we had these outer transits — and I don’t know if it was Neptune-Saturn, I can’t remember — but it was that money systems tend to change and that the last time we had this we went from the gold standard or silver standard to paper money.

William:  Actually, I think I did write that article and I correlated every time that we had a Uranus-Pluto alignment, most every time, we had a shift in status or change in the world’s reserve currency.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  And what many people don’t know, is that in order for any country in the world to trade– whether it’s goods, services, oil or commodities, gold — it has to be done through U.S. dollars. Because U.S. Dollar is the world standard. So nations have to hold U.S. dollars [in their Central Banks] because that’s considered means by which trade settlements and [international] commerce can occur.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  Now today, what’s happening is because the U.S. dollar is no longer backed by gold, but rather backed by debt, and the United States is no longer able to repay that debt, that the world is beginning to move away from the U.S. dollar and move to other [multilateral] mechanisms where trade settlement can occur. And that’s mainly through the development of the Chinese yuan swap mechanism, along with an alternative SWIFT [Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication] system, that the Russians are putting in place now.

Mj:  Well, I’ve been watching China buy up American debt for some time now and waiting to see if anyone was going to notice.

William:  Everyone is talking about that right now and the Chinese are fundamentally so tied into America.  But the thing is, and what most people don’t realize, is the bigger issue of a global de-dollarization movement taking place. And that de-dollarization is more threatening to the Anglo-American banking system than anything else going on.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  And that collapse of the Anglo-American banking system will initiate a multi-polar world, instead of a unipolar world that we have now. Moving from a unipolar post-1945 world to a multi-polar world.  And that’s really what this Uranus-Pluto is moving us toward.  It will be the end of the Petrodollar hegemony that we see.

Mj:  Gotcha.

William:  And it will be the emergence of a new world order.

Mj:  Well, that’s kind of neat because we are sort of skating our way haphazardly towards to the age of Aquarius.  So certainly it is an algorithm that better suits an Aquarian mindset.

William:  Well, yes, especially with the emergence of cryptocurrencies, which the youth is actively doing. As you know, Uranus is really the planet of youth.  And with Uranus-Pluto in 2010 you saw the emergence of Bitcoin, and then soon after, other cryptocurrencies.  And the kids today are using the Dark Net, to do commerce by trading for goods and services using Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies that have no [oversight or] control by central banks or any government agency.

Mj:  Got ya.

William:  So, no taxation.  So this is the real revolution that is going on, and here’s what it’s all about: it’s about no longer using the dollar as a means of international trade settlement.  And they’re using the internet and cryptocurrencies, and all other means of doing business with each other.  And all this is [happening and] moving rapidly.  So what we’re seeing at the same time is the breakdown of the United States as the world economic engine per se, that’s affecting the growth of rest of the world. So at some point it will become a fact that the U.S. is no longer going to remain the central hub [of the global economy]. And the U.S. is going to go through some form of a [financial] reset. This will be part of a global reset event.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  So there will be a global political reset, an economic political reset, a financial reset, and it’s all coming to a head.

Mj:  Yeah.  And I think, too, that it’s really interesting to watch.  It’s not that the governments have gotten any worse; they’ve always been horrible.  Recently it’s been demonstrated in law that our extent Prime Minister is a criminal.  He actually forged the last election.  He is, in fact, in power illegally, and nobody’s doing anything about it.  But the thing is, people are getting less and less tolerant of this behavior.  And that’s what I find interesting.  The average person is just “mad as hell and not going to take it anymore.”  So it’s going to be an interesting year.

William:  The 2015 – 2016 period, as we begin the traditional new year, on January 1st, the “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore ” theme is going to take hold strongly [within the collective]. You’re going not only going to see that with the government, you’re going to see that in large-scale organizations, in companies, in communities, and in marriages as well. You’re going to see that in school lunchrooms, in prisons, in every area. It’s going to seem like the whole world is starting to just lose it.

Mj:  Yep.

William:  Because when people have nothing else to lose, they lose it.  And that’s where people are at.

Mj:  Yeah.  They’re on the raggedy edge, aren’t they?  I think that’s true, and it’s nice, it’s wonderful that we’re having this cross-border conversation because I’m not talking from a Canadian perspective.  You’re not talking from an American perspective.  This is the deal, baby, and it’s a global deal.

William:  Right.  And that’s what I said in my 2014 article that I published on March 20th, “Global Revolution Goes Full Throttle.”  And we’re going to see that.  We’re seeing that now with Ukraine, and we’ve been seeing that all last year.  And I believe that revolution theme of “I’m sick and tired and I’m not going to take it anymore” is going to happen now. People are going to lose complete trust in the system because — economies are all based on trust.  And once there’s no sense of trust, the system begins to break down.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  And that is exactly what we are now witnessing.  And that is the thing folks need to keep in mind.  What is money?  What does money mean?  And they’re going to realize they no longer trust what they’re being told what their money is anymore.  Especially when it can do less and less for them.

Mj:  Yeah, this is cool.  So for those people who are learning, who want to get involved with the mundane astrology, they want to get their toes wet, how could you coach them?  Is there a book they should read?  Obviously, they are going to check out your website, which is fantastic, which I just want to say is williamstickevers.com.  So, folks, that’s a good place to go to start your journey.  But what else would you recommend?  Here’s what I know — I know that 0 Aries and 0 Capricorn are really important in mundane astrology.  That’s about it, and I’ve learned from you tonight that the beginning of a mundane year is at the spring equinox, which is really cool and thank you for teaching me that.  And that’s pretty much where I’m at.

William:  Yeah, look, I have to say this, mundane astrology is a vast subject.  There are as many techniques in mundane astrology as there are in natal astrology. Now, if you can’t see the answer your client has in transits, can’t see it using progressions, and even tertiaries aren’t working for you, and you decide to use a new natal technique [or horary] to get the answer, that is stretching it.  In mundane astrology, we have many techniques as well that’s very much tied up with cycles.  Like the Hindu yoga cycles; the Plato great years cycle; the processional great years cycle; the cycles between the collective planets and Uranus-Neptune-Pluto; the declination cycles in Uranus-Neptune-Pluto; the cycles between a social and collective planet such as Jupiter-Saturn, Uranus-Neptune-Pluto; the cyclic index of Gouchon and Barbault; the world horoscope; the collective planet cycles of national charts; the cycles of intermediates planets, such as Mercury, Venus, and Mars.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  And we have the annual cycles that focus on the time and location with long-term trends.  And then we have the solar cycle, the lunar cycles, and the daily cycles.

Mj:  So arguably if you’re using solar-lunar you’re using the Saros cycles, the eclipse cycles as well, then.

William:  Correct, absolutely.  In fact, the fastest way you can get yourself immersed in mundane astrology is by understanding the eclipse cycle.

Mj:  Cool!

William:  And then looking at the outer planet cycles which the Barbault and Gouchon index measure.  Because people can understand graphs pretty easily.

Mj:  Yeah.

William:  It’s pretty intuitive when you see the line of the graph go up or down to where things are moving towards.  So there are many other techniques out there that one must get immersed in — ingresses, lunations, eclipses is the first step.  And then taking it further, you can get into the cycles of the outer planets as the Barbault Index does, which has proven itself over and over again to be the most reliable indicator of the global economy and political stability and the development of civilization in history.  And by the way, that indicator right now is showing a [sharp] downward trend between 2014 and 2022.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  So we’re going to have on this index, which I actually looked at since 1 AD and analyzed it all the way until current time and correlated with all the major historical events.

Mj:  So that’s what I love.  I just need to pause you there because, did you hear that, listeners?  He started with 1 AD, and he studied all that back-data.  Why?  So that he can use forward-data effectively and accurately.  This is the science of astrology.  Go ahead, William.

William:  Well, basically what we do is we take the outer planets and we determine when they’re moving closest to each other, the line goes down.  When they’re moving furthest from each other, the line goes up.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  So the line goes down, that is a period of involution and breakdown and crisis and contraction, revolution, upheaval.  When the line goes up, that’s a period of development, constructive periods where you see recovery, social conditions improving, stability, optimism, a lot of constructive developments occur.  So we look at that and see for example if you look at the 20th century, there was a big drop in 1914 to 1919.  That was the time when World War I occurred.

Mj:  Mm-hmm.

William:  Then you had the Roaring ’20s where the line goes shooting up.  And then the line drops significantly starting in ’29 and bottoms in ’32, and that was the time where the world was initiated into the Great Depression.

Mj:  Sure.  The Dirty Thirties.

William:  The line stabilizes and then makes a really big drop from ’39 into ’43/’44 which correlated with the biggest battles in World War II.

Mj:  Mm-hmm.

William:  Then the line stabilizes throughout the ’50s, takes another drop again and that correlates with the Korean War.  The line moves up again and then you have that period in the early ’60s where we had the Space Race and the JFK era.

Mj:  And peace and love, man.  Don’t forget, peace and love, man.

William:  That’s right, so we have that, the ’60s revolution.  The line takes another dramatic drop in ’73 and that was the oil crisis, you’ll remember.

Mj:  Yep.

William:  And we also had that war in the Middle East and we had massive inflation.

Mj:  Up here we had a typical mortgage rate in that time because my mom went and bought a house during that time.  It was something crazy like 25%.

William:  Right.  So then the line hits a real bottom in ’82; that is called the Second Cold War.  And then the line begins moving up rapidly from ’85 onward and that’s when Gorbachev takes power, that’s when Glasnost and Perestroika happen, and also when the economies of Japan and Germany are thriving and become major partners with the United States.  It’s a booming period.  Then the line drops in the early ’90s when the Soviet Union collapses. And then the line shoots up nonstop from around ’93 to 2001, and what did we see?

Mj:  Okay.

William:  We see this boom period of irrational exuberance take place, with this massive bubble build up. Then all of a sudden [out of nowhere] 9/11 occurs, the Dot Com Bubble implodes, and then the line stabilizes all the way through until 2006.  And then it begins dropping and it drops again until 2009.  And you see the financial crisis occur, the collapse of the Lehman crisis, and the global financial implosion.  You see massive deleveraging of the Middle Class occur and double-digit unemployment worldwide.  Then the line stabilizes between 2008 until 2014 and then it begins the biggest drop, a 500-point drop which correlates very closely with the collapse of the Roman Empire between May of 2014 until September 2022.

Mj:  Crikey.  Yeah, because that is when we were thinking that there might be a hit on the stock market around Easter time [2014] and I was really surprised that it didn’t seem to show up.

William:  Well, let me explain that.  A lot of people think the stock market is the market to watch.  It is not.  It is the least sophisticated and smallest market.  The total capitalization is only $60 trillion.

Mj:  I’m sorry, did you say only $60 trillion?  Oh my God.

William:  It’s about the capitalization of Microsoft.  No, excuse me, let me take that back.  It’s the total market capitalization of one year’s global GNP, $60 trillion.

Mj:  Wow.  Okay.

William:  Now, what’s larger than that is the bond market.  That’s over $100 trillion.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  And what’s even bigger than that is the currency market, the FOREX market, the commodities, the currencies.  And they trade at $5 trillion a day.

Mj:  Crikey.

William:  Now take $5 trillion and multiply it by 365.  That’s a huge number.

Mj:  That’s a big number.  Oh yeah.

William:  So here’s the thing.  When people talk about the stock market, especially the astrologers, they have very little understanding that the stock market is the last thing to be affected by…

Mj:  The last thing to go — not the first thing to go…

William:  Yes, that is the last thing to go.  You want to look at is at the commodities market, the currency markets, what the central banks are doing, and then after that, you want to look at the bond markets.  And I can tell you that if you look at that, and you look at what has recently transpired exactly on the day of the Uranus-Pluto alignment on December 15th — what happened that day?

Mj:  I do not know.  Teach me.

William:  The Russian ruble.

Mj:  Did it devalue?  Oh yeah!  I remember hearing about this.

William:  Now that is very important.  Why?  It’s important because the ruble is very tied in with oil, the way the Russians sell their oil to the Europeans who are extremely dependent on them.  And remember, Russia is the largest oil and gas provider in the world, not the Middle East.  That being said, the fact that the ruble is being devalued and the Russian economy is about to collapse is a very telling sign because that will set off a Credit Soft Swap [CDS] from a crashing derivative.  Now, derivatives are bets on bets [with no oversight], and Russian oil futures contracts based on trading around $90 a barrel., and trading companies hedge their bets on future contracts with derivatives.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  Now remember, the derivative market is worth 10 times the amount of the stock market.

Mj:  Crikey.

William:  Yes.  It’s bigger than the stock market, it’s bigger than the bond market.  And who also uses derivatives?  [Too Big to Fail] Banks.

Mj: Oh…

William:  All “too big to fail” banks make their money, not by lending money anymore — that’s old school.  That’s why they don’t lend money out.  They don’t lend it to anyone for that matter; that’s why the money supply is lower than it was in 1932.  In other words, the circulation of money is occurring less than at the height of the Great Depression.

Mj:  Crikey.

William:  So the banks get money from the government.  They keep that money, and they then invest that money into the derivatives market and what is left over to the stock market.  And the derivatives market is tied in directly with the currency market.  And so, when there are derivative contracts, or $90 oil, and oil is now trading at $50, and now going to $20…

Mj:  Yeah, we know this in Canada because Alberta right now is our oil patch, I guess you could say, and you’re talking to me in Nova Scotia which is on our east coast, and everybody here goes out west to get work and sends the money home.  So everybody’s just been laid off and they’ve all come home just before Christmas.

William:  That’s right.  So what we’re seeing here is those derivative contracts are going to be due by January [2016].  So what I wrote on my website, Uranus-Pluto Krakatoa-Type Event has already occurred.

Mj:  Ooh…

William:  It has already begun.  It’s a massive black swan event.

Mj:  Okay.

William:  And it has to do with the fact that the Russian ruble, the derivative positions, and the Russian ruble have been compromised to the point where when those contracts come due, there will not be enough money in the world to cover them.

Mj:  Got ya.

William:  And so therefore, the sheer speed and scale of the collapse of the ruble has nothing to do with what happened in 1998.  Because the eighth largest economy on the entire planet is in a state of turmoil right now, and what we are going to see is a major upheaval in the derivatives market and that is going to affect everybody.

Mj:  I mean, it’s terrifying but I have to say, with my astrologer head on, I find it absolutely fascinating.

William:  Yes.  So like I said, and I’ll read the conclusion verbatim for the folks here.  “What is occurring now in Russia that happened on December 15th [2014] during the penultimate Uranus-Pluto alignment will have terrible repercussions through all of Europe.  The implications between now and the final Uranus-Pluto square that will occur in March 2015 is extremely hostile and volatile to the global economic climate, and it will not be confined within Russia’s borders.”

Mj:  Not at all.

William:  “This is just a prelude to the great unraveling as exchange rate volatility continues to increase, leading the way to systemic debt contagion.”  So remember, back in the ’20s and early ’30s, Europe went into a depression first, then it hit North America.  We are seeing the same thing go in play again.  And remember — when you have financial wars, lead to trade wars, lead to shooting wars.

Mj:  Yep.  Absolutely.  And certainly that is what history teaches us.  Okay, so, here’s the $5 question.  Given that we’re about to get a storm where we’re going to be floating around on a stormy sea in a tea cup holding on with both hands, what is your advice to the average Joe for the year ahead?  What shouldn’t they do, what should they do?

William:  Well, I think political activism, social activism.  I think you need to get really involved.  I think they’ve got to stop expecting the elected officials to —  they have to stop buying into what they’ve been told.  I don’t have all the quick and dirty answers for this —

Mj:  No, no, I’m not expecting.  I mean, it would be great but we couldn’t possibly pay you enough an hour if you had the quick and dirty answer (laughs) to this one.  (laughs)

William:  Let’s just say that, what I really believe needs to be done [to address the crisis], needs to be much more radical in the sense that, compared to what people are doing now.  Just posting something on Facebook and ranting about is not enough.

Mj:  Yeah.

William:  You know, part of the reason I’m doing this radio show is to get the message out there that life is going to change for many people, and if you think that voting for the other party come election time in November 2016 or whenever they vote in Canada is going to be the solution, that is NOT the solution.  What we need is a complete change in the system and we need to become very active in that process of change, starting now. We need to voice our positions.  And what this comes down to this, and that is we no longer have a representative government.

Mj:  We have not had a representative government, certainly at our end, for a long time.

William:  Right.  And so I believe what ordinary people need to do is completely drop the expectation that “if I vote for the other [establishment] party I never voted for this time around, things will change.” Sorry but that is not going to change anything.

Mj:  Yeah, wasn’t it Einstein, or it’s often ascribed to Einstein, that “a problem that’s created at one level of thinking cannot be solved by that level of thinking,” you have to get up to a higher octave.

William:  Correct.  So I believe the revolution starts [right in your own] home  It starts in local communities.  It starts with getting organized and discussing these things and not trying to immediately come up with solutions but recognizing what’s really going on.  A lot of folks out there, including the astrologers, need to start doing this. And you know this, Mj, we don’t see any of this happening.  Most are just clueless.  Many astrologers are not even talking about it.

Mj: (sigh) Well, yeah, but the thing is, William, you’re asking them to re-learn.  The problem is that I can feel it, I can see it.  I mean, I’m all about the data, same as you, and the paradigm is shifting, which means that the astrological indicators are shifting which means we got to get up off our ass and crunch the data and figure out what it means this week, not what it meant in 1922.  And there are a lot people who are very comfortable because they learned it in 1922 and they really don’t want to learn it again.

William:  Well, this is what I have to say to folks listening, especially those astrologers out there is this: Soon, much sooner than you think, you will know what I know.

Mj:  But not by the indications that they’re used to using.  That’s what I’m noticing is that if you don’t treat astrology as the science it is, and if you keep relying on old data, pretty soon you’re going to look like a Proper Wally because you’re going to be saying stuff that isn’t true and you’re going to be missing critical stuff that people need to know.

William:  Right.  So what I say to the folks out there and to the astrologers is that your world view [as you have known it] ended a long time ago.

Mj:  Mm.

William:  It ended back in 2000, 2001.  Okay.  And your world view is not sufficient to come to the solutions and recognitions of the issues at hand.  This has nothing to do with intelligence [but about consciousness].  And all this is going to happen soon is an event will take place — it’s already begun —

Mj:  Yeah.

William:  Well to many that will shift and shatter your present world view.  And there are many other people out there who are catching on.  One of the things I’m going to say right now is the Prepper Movement is going to go mainstream, worldwide.  There is about 10 million people prepping for some event or they’re buying bitcoin or gold or silver, they’re getting a 3-month food supply in the house, and being self-sufficient, doing whatever they need to do to survive some type of major dislocation.

Mj:  Yep.

William:  That number is going to grow to, like, 50%.  I believe it’s going to grow upward to 50%.

Mj:  Yeah, I’m really noticing that here.  We’ve got something called Halifax Garden Swap.  It is the most radical thing you can do, right, is grow your own food.  Because that sticks it to Monsanto like nothing else will.

William:  Right.  So again, I just have to say this, to those skeptical folks out there, who think “steady as she goes,” or “it’s just going to be more of the same but only worse”, you will soon know what I know.

Mj:  It won’t be so crazy in a couple of years.

William:  Maybe sooner than that.

Mj:  Sooner than that!  You reckon this year, eh?

William:  Yes.  I believe this event has already begun and I believe you will see the fallout go worldwide, and then from Wall Street to Main Street much sooner than anybody thinks.

Mj:  Alrighty.  Well, I’m going to hang onto my hat all the way over here in Halifax and hope we don’t get a tsunami.  (laughs) Listen, it’s been absolutely amazing having you on.  I’m very grateful for your time, and I might be rattling your chain over the next few months as things kick off, maybe bring you back on and give us — you could be our rudder, you could give us a little bit of guidance, eh?

William:  Yes, absolutely.  We’ll focus more on that in the next discussion.  I just wanted to make my statements that 2015 is going to be the year where everyone is going to start getting it.

Mj:  Well, I’m excited and I appreciate the tips for the mundane astrologers out there, too — or maybe the bouncing baby mundanes like me — because it is too much to eat whole.  It’s too huge; you have to take little nibbles.  So I’m going to go and follow your advice and definitely going to check out your page.  And I’ll make sure there are links from my page to yours so people can find you.

William:  Thank you very much for having me, Mj, and I hope your audience appreciates the type of show you provide because there are very few shows out there that cover the scope or gamut of things that are going on in astrology like yours does.

Mj:  Well, it’s fun, you know.  And it allows me to talk to cool folks like your good self, right?  So, (laughs) I look forward to speaking with you soon and thank you so much for joining us here on The Astrology Show.

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U.S. Transformational Crisis 2015-16 [Part 2]

Continued from Part 1
Transcribed from “Mark The Rabbit Hole” with Mark Metheny on WithInsightsRadio.
(Airdate: July 31, 2015)

William: Again, this goes all the way back to what we initially started talking about: Pluto.  Fascism — the merger of private and corporate state operating as one functional unit for the benefit of both private parties and that basically is the oligarchy.  What America [has become] is a nation run by an advanced oligarchy that operates at the deepest levels of the national security complex and [controls] the fractional reserve lending system which we call the Federal Reserve.  Which by the way is not federal, nor a reserve, but essentially a private banking cartel whose stock owners and members are secret. That is the reality that most of us [astrologers] refuse to acknowledge.

Mark:  Agreed.  My favorite quote on that I’ve heard is “The Federal Reserve is as federal as Federal Express is.”  It’s a private corporation and I was trying to think back about who I voted for Federal Reserve chairman last time and I remembered, oh, we don’t get to vote on it.  (Laughs) Those are the scary ones you have to watch, these people who get appointed and you have no say whatsoever on the job these people do.  You know, to me, I consider the job of president to be similar to America’s Top Model; it’s just kind of a figurehead to be pretty up there in front of the public.  The people that concern me are these people who show up over and over again as the head of these large banks and financial institutions and as members of different presidents’ cabinets regardless of what party they are.  So I think those are where the real, I don’t want to say the real power structures, but higher up on the power totem than the people that we sort of-kind of-not really get to vote for.

William:  Exactly.  So what you’re basically saying is that we have an oligarchy.

Mark:  Yes.

William:  Yes, we have a private, elite group who has the power and the access to [control] all levels of government, of national industry, and capital finance, to ensure that they work [together] congruently to implement a [domestic] policy that we [the populace] are not aware of, and does not support [the values of] America’s middle class, or long-term American interests abroad, but rather serve transnational corporate interest.

Mark:  Totally agreed.

William:  And as a result of this [oligarchical rule], what I am seeing — and by the what I’m about to say is just not about money or the nation’s finances — is that the nation is on the verge of [social] revolution. True revolution, in where we are going to see a major upheaval with the [two major party system] body politic. Therefore, I believe all bets [based on the forecast of mainstream political pundits] are off after this fall with the [upcoming] 2016 election. Again, all bets are off!  Everyone at this point who says, yeah, it’s going to be Jeb, it’s going to be Hillary, it’s going to be this [establishment candidate], or it’s going to be that — nobody knows. Why? Because when certain events begin to play themselves out [on the world stage] in the forthcoming weeks and months ahead, I can assure you that much of the mechanisms of establishment politics, in the guise of another [well scripted] presidential TV reality show that’s been played out on us since World War II, will no longer work. For I believe we are seeing the nascent phase of a [growing] populist movement which will result in some populist leadership [in one or both parties] that will awaken the compulsive grassroots instincts (Pluto) throughout the nation-state. And as a result, I believe we are going to witness a collective power struggle when this occurs. So we’re going to see something play out that we haven’t seen played out in some way since the American Civil War. Ultimately we’re going to see a convergence and combination of a lot of things [that have been brewing within the nation’s collective unconscious] really start to happen.

Also, I believe the ongoing Uranus and Pluto complex — which by the way is still very active as it is still within close range of orb to each other — an escalation and acceleration of political grassroots movements that initiate and invoke massive sweeping reforms in nations’ political structure and financial system. At the same time, we will also possibly witness a near collapse of the United States. By the way, I’m not the only one who’s been saying this; there are a lot of European and especially Russian analysts, very bright Russian analysts who actually came here [shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union to start a new life] and speak in very intelligent and compelling ways that say the U.S. is in the first and second phase of the five stages of “empire collapse.”

In fact, many of them were actually writing this way [about the Soviet Union] in the mid-’80s when they were working for the Soviet government.  Let me make it clear that Gorbachev was well aware of the fact that the Soviet Union was in the second or third phase of collapse when he took power [in 1985]. The CIA [as we understand it today] was also well aware of that. Many of these very same people, who worked for the [Russian] intelligence agencies and now work for many American think tanks [that create government policy (like Brookings or RAND)], are saying the same thing about the U.S., and that is that we have gone from the first into the second phase of collapse.

Here are the five states of collapse. First, you have financial collapse. Then you begin to have political collapse. Then you have commercial collapse. This is followed by social collapse and then the fifth collapse, hmmm…I don’t remember it off-hand but I believe it’s something like cultural collapse. Regardless, the first phase is what happened in 2007-2009, and now we are seeing a major breakdown in the partisan political system [in 2014-2016]. Because for the first time, we have more people that are registered Independent or do not affiliate with either party. And, with the way that trend is going, that number will surpass the combined level of [registered] Democrat and Republican voters by 2020.

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The 5 States of Empire Collapse:
1. Financial Collapse: faith in “business as usual” is lost. Financial institutions become insolvent; savings are wiped out, and access to capital is lost.
2. Political Collapse: faith that “the government will take care of you” is lost. Government officials attempts to mitigate the widespread financial deleveraging by the middle-class fail to make a difference that results in the political establishment losing its unquestioned legitimacy.
3. Commercial Collapse: faith that “the market shall provide” is lost. Money become devalued through deflation and becomes scarce. As a result, commodities are hoarded, retail chains break down, and the beginning of shortages of basic necessities become the norm.
4. Social Collapse: faith that “your people will take care of you” is lost, as social institutions, be they Church or other charity groups rush in to fill the power vacuum of depleting resources and capital.
5: Cultural Collapse: faith in the goodness of humanity is lost, as families disband to find scarce resources.
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Mark:  Yeah, and some of the stuff may sound scary to people but — this is going to sound wrong but — to me, I’m all for things collapsing.  I think the system is so corrupt and so beyond fixing at this point that I think these things need to collapse.  And just real quick, I had an interesting subject that came up at my monthly class a couple weeks ago, and we were talking about the upcoming election.  And what’s interesting is that transiting Saturn will be opposed to the Mars in the U.S. chart which is at 21 Gemini.  So, Saturn takes 28 years to go through the zodiac, every seven years Saturn is going to square where it was previously, and so we looked back at the U.S. chart and to where Saturn had made these previous squares every seven years.  So next year Saturn will square the U.S. Mars; we have a presidential election.  We went back seven years from that and we had the economic collapse and the TARP bailout.  Then we went back to 2001; we had 9/11.  We went back to 1994; we had Oklahoma City [bombing] where literally thousands of new laws were passed.  And before that, 1987, we had the previous financial collapse.

William:  Those are very good insights.  And we also have transiting Saturn in December 2016 opposing [the U.S. natal] Mars, which really correlates very closely to what we were saying earlier, as Pluto opposes the U.S. Sun right on the 2nd House cusp [Sibly Horoscope].  Also, Saturn will still not be far away from the Ascendant which is very telling in itself. Yes, I’m totally with you.  I believe we’re going to see some major, major shifts in the body politic that’s very closely correlating with the major unwinding geopolitical and macro global economic events, and the rumblings of those seismic movements are now in play.

Mark:  Yes, I agree, there’s big stuff coming up in the future.  And one of the encouraging things I see are a lot of people are waking up.  A lot of people are starting to figure out that the two-party system is just one party disguised as two, and they’re finally starting to see this.  We’re just feeding the beast by allowing the one-party-disguised-as-two to keep running rampant as it has been.

By the way, some of these charts that we’re talking about William has posted on his Facebook page and I’ve shared it on mine.  I’ve also got his website up in the chat room and on my Facebook page as well so be sure and visit those.  And he’s got some YouTube videos out there as well, so lots of great information he has out there.

So what kind of advice do you give to clients that come to you?  What can people do during this time?  How can they just in general safeguard themselves or make this less painful?  What kind of stuff do you recommend?

William:  Well, I really believe what people need to do is [come to terms with] with a few major facts that are very uncomfortable, and that has to do with dealing with the possibility of a major financial dislocation occurring [in this country]. Where you go to your bank or your ATM to swipe your card and no transaction takes place. I also believe there’s a possibility for bank bail-ins. Keep in mind they closed the banks in 1933 for 4 days, when they confiscated gold. That was a form of a bail-in. So they closed the banks [back then], in order to avoid a bank panic. They will do so again most likely.  We could also see the banks go into receivership due to an economic bond apocalypse scenario, which is possible.  So we all must be prepared for that. And that means getting really informed — the more informed you are, the more likely you are to take action.  Start talking about it with people.  I think the day of “let’s not talk about this or that” among friends and family has to come to an end.

Mark:  Agreed.

William:  And as for the astrological community, we need to start talking about it too! Why? Because these days there are so many astrologers that keep saying “well, you know, if Jupiter transits such and such it’s all going to work out,” or “it’s all going to be fine.”  Sorry, it’s not all going to be fine. The other thing is, for those folks who are aging Baby Boomers and have retired or are on the verge of retiring, I suggest that wealth preservation needs to be their foremost concern.  They should not assume that their pension is going to be there.  They should take matters into their own hands to secure and preserve their wealth, because the next thing I see going is the pensions.  Yes, the PENSIONS! I think I might write an article called “It’s the Pensions, Stupid.”

Mark: (Laughs)

William:  Why? Because all the pensions are connected to the bond funds (which is debt) and most of those bonds are worth zero now, or they’re worth pennies on the dollar.  And many of the Baby Boomers, (including the Baby Boomer astrologers) still believe they are going to get that big fat $1.1 or $2.1 million pension [based on their 401K contributions since 1974] while the Millennial and Gen-Xer’s will continue paying into a pension system that they know is essentially insolvent since the 2007 crisis, are deluded!  In fact, many of the Baby Boomers are unaware that the latest statement in Social Security states by 2029, you will only receive as of today, 77% of what the projected number is. So they say by 2030 you’ll get X amount per month. However, if you can only expect 77% of that number (it’s an asterisk on the bottom of the Social Security statements). This should be major news. So, I advise people [who seek my counsel about their long-term financial future] that no matter what the establishment candidates say — that being Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush — they have no solution to this problem [or to most any of the intractable problem we have as a nation]. For they are both paid off by Wall Street.  They are both puppets to an oligarchical elite that serves another agenda.  So I tell my clients this stuff, and when I do some get very upset and choose to take action; others walk away and think I’m totally [out of my mind] crazy, despite the compelling secular evidence and trends.  However, most of my clients come around a second time and say, “Okay, I’m ready to hear what you have got say. What asset allocation will survive this, should I buy gold, how do I buy silver, how do I preserve my wealth no matter what happens?” They also ask, “How do I prepare if we have a dislocation occurrence, how long will it last? What websites can I go to?  How can I get more informed?  How can I take action in my local community and start speaking up and presenting this information to others?” So that’s the advice I give, and encourage them to follow up with [massive] action.

For those folks listening to this interview, I suggest that you don’t just listen to this show, say these guys are crazy, and that I’m going to go back and vote for Hillary and Jeb because no matter what it’s all going to work out. I’m asking people to take action [at some level] and do your own research. Try and prove us wrong.  Try and prove that the secular data is not there, that the financial data is not there, that the historical data is not there, and then prove that the astrology is not there either.

Just as an example, for those skeptical astrologers who are listening, every Uranus-Pluto alignment which was using a 10-degree orb, there’s always been a market or bank panic; that’s always been a [following] recession or a depression however you want to define it. There’s always been a massive recapitulation in political power. So this has gone on perfectly since 1790, since the inception of this nation’s government.  These are things I try and stress with people, I talk about it, I try and weave it into a reading even if they come to me when they want to know if and how they can get back together with their millionaire boyfriend. Whatever it is, I try to wake them up; showing them there’s a lot more going on in the world right now  than meeting narcissistic, immediate gratification needs.

Mark:  Right.  That’s very interesting.  One thing that I see a lot of times in the astrological community too is, we just have the last of the seven Uranus-Pluto squares so we get through that and then people expect that that energy is done.  Well, it’s not done.  Sometimes there are things going on in the background which we said Pluto rules conspiracies and secrets and hidden agendas, so there’s a potential that big things happened at that point, they just have not hit the mainstream of our collective consciousness.  So some of these things may not have been found out yet.  And as we go through, we’re getting ready to start a Saturn-Neptune square cycle and we’re going to have Jupiter in Capricorn a couple years down the road, and that’s going to be forming squares to the Uranus-Pluto conjunction — squares to Uranus and conjunctions to Pluto.  So, some of the stuff that has happened, maybe has just not hit the light of day yet.

William:  Well, here’s the thing.  We have Uranus-Pluto, if you use the 10-degree wide orb, it went into effect back in February 2007 when the Chinese markets dropped 461 points and we saw the collapse of Bear Stearns, one of the largest banking institutions in the world, shortly thereafter.  That basically set off the 2007-2009 Great Recession which we have not really recovered from.  Since that time we’ve had escalating geopolitical breakdown, escalating global financial contraction, and monetary intervention by central banks to buck up [and prop] the system. And using that orb we will not be done [feeling the impact Uranus-Pluto until 2020. Now during that period, you are going to have the Jupiter-Saturn square this August [2015]. And, if you use a 5-degree orb, it’s already in effect, and will continue to be well into 2018.  As you know the Jupiter-Saturn cycle has much to do with the political and social establishment, also the creation and development of capital, and heavy capital investment in infrastructure for the purpose of expansion and development of the broader economy. However, when it’s a backward square, what will be exposed is the collapse of capital formation occurring in the system due to the gross malinvestment of money directed into defunct industries and the propping up of Wall Street banks with the Federal Reserve bailouts and quantitative easing [QE] programs 2007-2013.  As a result, we will witness the ramifications of this insane strategy by the Fed. As the recovery and expansion of Wall Street hasn’t resulted in the expansion and development of the broader economy on Main Street.

And then we have the Saturn-Neptune cycle, and then we begin the Saturn-Pluto cycle which actually begins in late 2016.  So all these planetary alignments are converging in their effect lead to some “big event.” That’s the point.

Mark:  And we have an exact Jupiter-Saturn square this Monday morning [August 3, 2015] at Jupiter 28 Leo and Saturn at 28 Scorpio.  So that’ll be one of the fist exact squares in this cycle.  And some you’ve mentioned a couple of times and I forgot to chime in there, about how they’ve been feeding money into the banks and they’ve been holding on to it.  This is like when they expanded the fractional reserve lending which allowed banks to originally loan 5% of what they actually had in hand, and then they boosted it to 10% of what they had in hand.  Now I think it’s probably unlimited, but instead of floating out debts it’s like they’re holding on to that extra amount that’s being floated to them, instead of lending it out to keep the economy flowing.

William:  That’s correct.  Yes, that’s correct.

Mark:  Okay.

William:  So I think the bottom line is that people have to just wake up and realize that what’s happening in Greece is going to happen to America.  It will not happen immediately, but between now and the next five years, we can see an economic collapse [unfold].  Right now Greece is in the midst of a total collapse.  Retail sales plunged 70%, doctors have fled the country, people are now bartering.  This is not mainstream news.  This is something nobody wants to talk about.

Mark:  Right.

William:  And another thing is we don’t need to wait until the U.S. stock market starts to crash before we can ask “oh, so when is it going to collapse…?” Folks — it’s already begun.  The collapse [on a global scale] has already begun.

Mark:  Right.  And this is not to scare people, this is to help people be prepared so that you already have things in place and things going in the right direction when this does happen.  It’s just kind of a wake-up call.

William:  Exactly, yes!  So, the bottom line is that we’re going to see a major reconfiguration. A [collective] psycho-spiritual death-rebirth event and a major reconfiguration of the United States. It will be the end of the United States 2.0 [1900-2020] and the beginning of the United States 3.0 in the following decade. Right now we’re actually going through more of the death and the first early stage of the transformation, and we are not going see much of the rebirth yet. That will happen more in the early 2020s from my long-range perspective. Also, I believe we will witness the death of the two-party system [and rule of government], along with the breakdown and death [through a deflationary] implosion of the fractional reserve lending system that will be followed by a middle class revolt. Folks, what we are going to see is not Occupy Wall Street but rather Occupy All Street! It’s coming and that’s something neither Jeb Bush nor Hillary Clinton want to address or talk about.

[In regards to] the election of 2016, we may get a really dynamic leader — like I mentioned earlier with Pluto, you may witness a very powerful, grassroots leader emerge.  That has happened before as we saw happen in the ’30s with Hitler.  But unless we get a really powerful grassroots leader, populist leader to emerge, what we’re likely going to see is an election that looks like a “don’t ask and don’t tell” presidential reality TV show, or campaign.  And if you want to participate in that [type of establishment campaign], you are basically setting up this country to self-destruct at a much faster pace. We can have a crisis followed by transformation, or we can have a crisis followed by death.  It’s really up to you at this point. If you believe that it all can be fixed by somebody else by pulling the [establishment Hillary-Jeb vote] lever, as you continue living in debt, believing they are the only viable solution for the nation, then you have essentially made the decision to choose to allow the nation to implode economically, politically, socially, and spiritually.

Mark:  Yes.

William:  It’s up to you.  The choice is up to you.

Mark:   Yeah, I totally agree.  And that’s what I try to tell people.  When you see a big energy coming down the road, Uranus station or a Pluto transit or whatnot, you can sit in the corner and be afraid or you can throw something into the middle of the road that you want blown up.  So we can use this energy, this transformative, destructive energy to our benefit to change the things that are wrong with our country and out financial system.

William:  I totally agree with you, Mark.

Mark:  Awesome.  Awesome stuff.  I know I told you I’d only keep you here an hour, is there any last messages or anything else you want to share with people?

William:  Well, I’m just letting people know if they go to my blog or my website, I have a lot of articles on this.  I present the data, both secular and astrological; I use a lot of graphs, I keep it short and sweet because I know it can get boring and I know most people’s attention span is no more 30 seconds per blog post.

Mark:  Right.

William:  I plan to be writing more now. I’m writing another article on the upcoming Shemitah.  The prophecy of the Shemitah and how that correlates historically with the death, destruction and rebirth of economies, and how that correlates within a modern astrological context.  Also, I try and get people to think about things that most people are not thinking about, especially within the astrological community.  And I plan to make it very clear to the leadership of the astrological community that pontificate for their podiums, that I am not intimidated by their continued passive marginalization of what is happening out there.  I have been collecting the evidence [and doing my homework] seeing these mundane trends to playout.  Also, I’m making myself very clear to the astrological leadership that if you want to keep saying “it’s all okay,” that’s fine, but you’re also going to hear from me and other astrologers. For I’m not the only one out there — there are other astrologers out there, using all different systems of astrology, that are coming to a very powerful counterpoint consensus of saying “it’s not okay; we are in a major global crisis.”  For the continued level of denial is now going to present a really big credibility issue within the larger astrological community if this keeps up that keeps saying “steady as it goes, the only thing to really be concerned about is global warming.” That is not totally true, and by the way I’m not playing down the ongoing ecological collapse.  In fact, I’ve written many articles on Fukushima and the growing radiological crisis that the Obama Administration doesn’t want to tell you about. I have presented that data over and over.  But the astrological community by and large doesn’t want to present this subject matter at a conference. And this is what needs to be discussed because this is our moment.  We are one of the few people out there that can define, educate, and forecast what’s really going on.

Mark:  Yeah, I agree.  I believe if we stay asleep during this period, we will miss our opportunity.  I’m giving a lecture at the Universal Life Expo in September [2015] called “Generation X: Time to Awaken” and those of us born in the mid-’60s — well, throughout the ’60s but especially in that ’65-’67  time period — I mean, we’re going to have unprecedented power at our disposal that 99% of the people who’ve ever lived will never experience.  We’ve got that Uranus-Pluto conjunction in our chart, we’re going to get an exact trine from transiting Pluto in Capricorn and a conjunction from Neptune in the North Node, and we’re going to get this in the middle part of [2016].  I mean, that is a powerful, powerful alignment, and the Generation Xers have been known as the slackers but, you know, we’re just late bloomers.  And so if we miss this opportunity where we have this incredible power at our disposal, we will not have that opportunity again.  So time to awaken.

William: I totally agree. I’m really happy to hear you’re doing that presentation on Generation X because its certainly not talked about enough, under-reported. You see the Baby Boomer astrologers continue to pontificate their contributions to the culture. They [overlook Generation X] and continue to talk about the promise of the Millennials.  And [while they do this,] Generation X is coming to power. I believe the next president in 2020 will be a full Generation X; I don’t buy into that Obama is a true Generation X president. And I’m not just talking about presidents; I’m talking about leaders. Yes, Mark, I believe you will be right as the shift [in power] into Generation X will have a dramatic impact over the next 3-4 years. But it certainly begins next year, no doubt about it, where many will come to power. And it’s going to be a major game-changer, a whole different paradigm shift. A whole different perspective. A whole different way of leadership. And we’re going to see that effect at every different level — the civic level, municipals, the federal level. We’re going to see it in government, in finance, in industry. We’re going to see it in the way global politics occurs. And, also, I believe that Generation X is going to be very aware of the oligarchy, very aware of transnational interests, very aware of Deep State. And I believe this new generation of leadership will confront the oligarchy very much in the same way Teddy Roosevelt confronted the Robber Barons and all those Capitals of Industry who were behind the railroad, steel, oil, and banking monopolies, where he took them on and he broke up their trusts and created powerful anti-trust legislation and really changed the country and in effect made this country into the world’s greatest economic and military superpower in the history of the world. So I believe that it’s possible and can happen over again. I even maintain and believe we can become an even greater Superpower, not necessarily militarily, but culturally and technologically that transforms the world, that makes it a better place. A Superpower that transitions us from a Type 0 to a Type 1 civilization where we create and integrate A.I. into society and alternative energy systems and  methods of manufacturing, and cleaner ways of production and growth. We can be the leaders again. But it cannot happen with this current group of leadership, and this current paradigm that operates as a kleptocracy, with a antiquated uni-polar 1999 world view, that controls and manipulates every sector in the nation, while pontificating democracy. Because of that we as a nation and people are paying the price at every level. It is now time, I believe, for the Generation Xers to come to power and to show the world, and the oligarchy what they got. It’s going to be their turn to come up to bat, and I am betting heavy that they’re going to hit some home runs over the coming decade.

Mark: I agree totally. This is a huge opportunity. And, too, a section of the Generation Xers are having their Chiron return. What a better time to heal the earth and heal the economy and heal our country than having your Chiron return along with the Jupiter-North Node-Pluto transit. The energy is… the wind is to our backs. It’s time for us to wake up and — this goes against what I’ve always preached but — maybe have a little less patience with things right now.

William: Right. Well, I’m in total alignment with you and I want to thank you for having me on the show. I have to get going now; I actually have to go back to my avocation. (laughs) I have to go to work, actually. But I want to thank you again and hopefully we can talk in the future about the election, go deeper into that.

Mark: Absolutely.

William: And talk deeper about some of the other things that are active in the U.S. chart and certainly what’s happening in the world.

Mark: Absolutely. I know your time is very valuable; I appreciate you taking some time to spend with us and going over some of these very important details that people may have missed. So I hope you have a great day at work, and we would love to have you back on in the future.

William: Thank you very much, Mark. I appreciate it. Talk to you soon.

Mark: Thank you, William. Okay, so there you go. Straight-forward. That’s the deal. William Stickevers, our guest there. I have his website in the chat room and on my Facebook page, so you can find him at WilliamStickevers.com and at WilliamStickevers.Wordpress.com and he also has some YouTube videos up there. So we want to thank him for all of the great information out there, and if we went a little fast on some of the stuff, the show will be up for archive listening in a couple hours. If you want to understand what’s going on with the economy or you want to be able to tell people about some of the info he shared, you can just go and download the show or re-listen at your convenience.

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